Whyte is the biggest hype job in HWD and will badly exposed by Parker!

f1ght3rz · Jun 8, 2018

I only saw one at least two guys really outboxing Wilder and that was Washington and from time to time Szpilka. But not in the way Ortiz did. Ortiz absolutely dominated the fight in the first four rounds, would have won round 5 too but was knocked down so 8-10 rounds and then lost round six to recover but stepped up his level in round7+8 while round 9 was competitive and he was stopped in the tenth. Can't see a badly gassed out Ortiz here.

f1ght3rz · Jun 8, 2018

Vykus said: ↑

I still think Wilder beats Whyte, Parker beats Whyte, but i think Whyte beats Ortiz. I know hes only lost once, to Wilder as well, and is very skillful, but just think hes at that stage of his career where age catches up to everyone and tough,big and skillful enough top 15 guys in their prime like Whyte, Miller, Parker, Brezeale can start picking him off.
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Parker is a tough matchup for Ortiz. I agree, this is close and Parker has a decent chance to win in that kind of matchup. I never denied that. Miller is also a tough nut, but he is too easy to hit and Ortiz probably would take him out at one point, Miller is too slow imo. But Brezeale? No way Brezeale has a chance. Brezeale is nothing special.

It's a shame that we won't see Whyte vs Ortiz. I would love to see the result no matter if it comes like i said.

BoxingABC1 · Jun 8, 2018

f1ght3rz said: ↑

I only saw one at least two guys really outboxing Wilder and that was Washington and from time to time Szpilka. But not in the way Ortiz did. Ortiz absolutely dominated the fight in the first four rounds, would have won round 5 too but was knocked down so 8-10 rounds and then lost round six to recover but stepped up his level in round7+8 while round 9 was competitive and he was stopped in the tenth. Can't see a badly gassed out Ortiz here.
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and lets be honest, if Wilder was battering Ortiz the same way that Ortiz was battering Wilder in that round where Wilder was out on his feet, the fight would've been stopped.

f1ght3rz · Jun 8, 2018

BoxingABC1 said: ↑

and lets be honest, if Wilder was battering Ortiz the same way that Ortiz was battering Wilder in that round where Wilder was out on his feet, the fight would've been stopped.
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Definitely.

I also can not believe in the "gassing out" theory because a guy who is badly gassing out after 5-6 rounds won't recover like that from a bad knockdown in the fifth round.

deadACE · Jun 8, 2018

PaddyGarcia said: ↑

A lot of people here in the UK think Whyte is a world class, fearless fighter.

Which he absolutely is not.
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Never heard anybody say he's world class. He will fight anybody which you have to give him credit for.

PaddyGarcia · Jun 8, 2018

deadACE said: ↑

Never heard anybody say he's world class. He will fight anybody which you have to give him credit for.
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Check on Twitter mate.

How can you say he'll fight everybody? Pulled out of the Wach fight, demanded 1Mil to rematch washed Chisora and he's now swerved Ortiz for a shot at Wilder which he claimed to really want. The whole "he'll fight anybody" notion is a total myth

gdm · Jun 8, 2018

Tuson Fury is a biggest hype job, followed by joshua

deadACE · Jun 8, 2018

PaddyGarcia said: ↑

Check on Twitter mate.

How can you say he'll fight everybody? Pulled out of the Wach fight, demanded 1Mil to rematch washed Chisora and he's now swerved Ortiz for a shot at Wilder which he claimed to really want. The whole "he'll fight anybody" notion is a total myth
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Swerved Ortiz to fight Parker, and you say that's a duck. Come on pal.

Rematching Chisora will not elevate his career, hes just not relevant anymore. Same as facing Wach.

I wouldn't call somebody out for ducking who has faced one of the top 3 in the division in Joshua, called out Wilder with real in intent to fight and who is currently preparing to face Parker. I'm not a fan of his but I enjoy watching him fight and he is game.

PaddyGarcia · Jun 8, 2018

deadACE said: ↑

Swerved Ortiz to fight Parker, and you say that's a duck. Come on pal.

Rematching Chisora will not elevate his career, hes just not relevant anymore. Same as facing Wach.

I wouldn't call somebody out for ducking who has faced one of the top 3 in the division in Joshua, called out Wilder with real in intent to fight and who is currently preparing to face Parker. I'm not a fan of his but I enjoy watching him fight and he is game.
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It is. He was mandated to fight Ortiz and chose Parker instead, which is an easier fight (IMO). If he wasn't scared of fighting Ortiz, why did he choose Parker instead? This isn't an eliminator for a belt like the Ortiz is or even like the Pulev fight was. AJ wasn't in the top 3 when he fought him either. If his intent to fight Wilder was legit (and not just a plot by Hearn to keep him away from AJ) then surely he'd just fight Ortiz so that he's properly mandated by the WBC?

Chisora may not be relevant, but most feel he lost that fight and he could have corrected that. But he instead fought Tann and then Helenius...

DoubleJab666 · Jun 8, 2018

f1ght3rz said: ↑

So let's take a detailed look at his resume. I really think Whyte is one of the biggest hype jobs in the HWD right now. Why? So first i think he has one of the best promoters behind him now, Hearn knows how to sell him and he knows how to give him opponents where he looks great afterwards. I mean you can promote a guy who beat Anthony Joshua in the amateurs everywhere, especially if he is a Brit who hasn't a big amateur background due to some issues with the association because of his kickboxing career before. You can make a big story out of it. "The guy who beat AJ in the amateurs but wasn't allowed to have a big and successful amateur career due to a dispute with the association".

He is by far an average fighter in all aspects of his game, he has average power for a HW, he has no real defensive skills or is a good mover either, he is easy to hit and of course and you can also see that his technique isn't sharp or his skillset isn't various like you know from some experienced amateurs. Whyte is a brawler who has no plan b in his repertoire. But he isn't even able to brawl because he isn't able to take out average opponents due to lacking power and size.

But let's take a look at his resume, i think this will tell pretty much the whole story here.

I will start backwards from the beginning.

His first 11 fights were vs some cans. I mean take a look at those records: 4-10-1, 17-40-3, 1-2-1, 22-64-5, 2-0-1, 6-23-5, 3-24-4, 3-1-1, 9-49-6.

I mean it pretty much tells the story if you fight a guy with a record of 9 wins and 49 losses (stopped 15 times) after being 10-0-0 so far. For example Parker fought a guy like Frans Botha after five fights.

But let's take a deeper look in the last two or three years. What did he do?

Apart from his defeat to AJ where he showed some kind of heart and toughness (i never questioned his ability to take shots!) he fought

- 40yr old Brian Minto
- 35yr old Ireneu Beato Costa Junior who was stopped in three of his last four fights before facing Whyte
- 34yr old Ivica Bacurin who was 25-9-1
- average brit level fighter David Allen
- 34yr old Ian Lewision who was/is beyond his prime by far
- past prime Dereck Chisora who was definitely robbed there, i think Chisora won the fight but he has no reputation and fought to lose
- 38yr old Malcom Tann who was badly beaten and KOd by Kuzmin two months before facing Whyte and who had two fights within 10 years before
- past prime 33yr old Robert Helenius who is absolutely shot to pieces and nearly lost to a guy with a 10-14-3 record recently
- 39yr old Lucas Browne who looked like a 50yr old who had some pub brawls in the past, slow af, absolutely shot.

THIS is the dark true about Dillian Whyte. He has done absolutely NOTHING apart from surviving a couple of rounds vs Anthony Joshua, the #1 in the division.
I can not take Whyte as a serious and legit Top 10 HW. This is a joke. And some guys here thinking really he can beat Parker or Ortiz. LMAO.

Whyte will be exposed next month. He has absolutely no chance to win vs a fast, sharp and young Parker. But we all know the british cards and we know he will have a huge home support factor behind his back so Parker has to take him out to be sure. And i am sure he will do that.
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You make a strong case. And Hearn has somehow managed to get Parker to agree to a very short camp, and this for someone who does let himself go between bouts. Furthermore.... did Whyte start his camp a few week's ago in the knowledge Parker was his likely opponent, with Pulev being the cover story?

f1ght3rz · Jul 27, 2018

COUNTDOWN: Whyte getting exposed in ~30 hours.

smiffyinoz · Jul 28, 2018

f1ght3rz said: ↑

So let's take a detailed look at his resume. I really think Whyte is one of the biggest hype jobs in the HWD right now. Why? So first i think he has one of the best promoters behind him now, Hearn knows how to sell him and he knows how to give him opponents where he looks great afterwards. I mean you can promote a guy who beat Anthony Joshua in the amateurs everywhere, especially if he is a Brit who hasn't a big amateur background due to some issues with the association because of his kickboxing career before. You can make a big story out of it. "The guy who beat AJ in the amateurs but wasn't allowed to have a big and successful amateur career due to a dispute with the association".

He is by far an average fighter in all aspects of his game, he has average power for a HW, he has no real defensive skills or is a good mover either, he is easy to hit and of course and you can also see that his technique isn't sharp or his skillset isn't various like you know from some experienced amateurs. Whyte is a brawler who has no plan b in his repertoire. But he isn't even able to brawl because he isn't able to take out average opponents due to lacking power and size.

But let's take a look at his resume, i think this will tell pretty much the whole story here.

I will start backwards from the beginning.

His first 11 fights were vs some cans. I mean take a look at those records: 4-10-1, 17-40-3, 1-2-1, 22-64-5, 2-0-1, 6-23-5, 3-24-4, 3-1-1, 9-49-6.

I mean it pretty much tells the story if you fight a guy with a record of 9 wins and 49 losses (stopped 15 times) after being 10-0-0 so far. For example Parker fought a guy like Frans Botha after five fights.

But let's take a deeper look in the last two or three years. What did he do?

Apart from his defeat to AJ where he showed some kind of heart and toughness (i never questioned his ability to take shots!) he fought

- 40yr old Brian Minto
- 35yr old Ireneu Beato Costa Junior who was stopped in three of his last four fights before facing Whyte
- 34yr old Ivica Bacurin who was 25-9-1
- average brit level fighter David Allen
- 34yr old Ian Lewision who was/is beyond his prime by far
- past prime Dereck Chisora who was definitely robbed there, i think Chisora won the fight but he has no reputation and fought to lose
- 38yr old Malcom Tann who was badly beaten and KOd by Kuzmin two months before facing Whyte and who had two fights within 10 years before
- past prime 33yr old Robert Helenius who is absolutely shot to pieces and nearly lost to a guy with a 10-14-3 record recently
- 39yr old Lucas Browne who looked like a 50yr old who had some pub brawls in the past, slow af, absolutely shot.

THIS is the dark true about Dillian Whyte. He has done absolutely NOTHING apart from surviving a couple of rounds vs Anthony Joshua, the #1 in the division.
I can not take Whyte as a serious and legit Top 10 HW. This is a joke. And some guys here thinking really he can beat Parker or Ortiz. LMAO.

Whyte will be exposed next month. He has absolutely no chance to win vs a fast, sharp and young Parker. But we all know the british cards and we know he will have a huge home support factor behind his back so Parker has to take him out to be sure. And i am sure he will do that.
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It's great reading back some of these threads, so much bull****.

Infern0121 · Jul 28, 2018

Bwahahaha haha

Old man ortiz lover gets exposed.

Wait till the 'scenes start

Pretty Boy Floyd · Jul 29, 2018

f1ght3rz said: ↑

COUNTDOWN: Whyte getting exposed in ~30 hours.
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parker not about that life.

f1ght3rz · Jul 29, 2018

You guys are right, i was wrong, but not about Whyte, i was wrong about Parker.

And let's be clear here: Whyte was nearly stopped in the last round as Parker started to FIGHT.

My first posting in that topic still is a strong case based on some arguments. You guys can't deal with that tbh.

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