Harry Wills vs Jess Willard primes

You're 100% right Suzie Wills win KO round 1 Willard has no chance well done for sucking the life out of your own thread

 

I may be immature, but thats funny as ****! KUDOS Web! Btw suzie, cooney WAS a bum.

 

Is Wills that great? He looks pretty poor in the footage of him, I don't think that's the best way to judge a fighter, but I think people are being unusually quick to dismiss the footage compared to when discussing other boxers

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A rather soft looking Firpo didn't seem to have too much trouble landing on him, and Wills looked rather slow and reliant on hitting and holding, which I'm not sure would be the best tactic against Willard.

 

If they fought three times, I think each would win once. Wills did not have the best of chin, and wasn't fast either, which would allow a slower and stronger Willard to land with less difficulty.

 

He didn't lose to him! Good enough excuse?

1914 Mar 27 Tom "Bearcat" McMahon Youngstown, Oh ND 12 -Some sources report "L 12

 

Are Matty D's ratings gospel then? Or is it just that they agree with your agenda? I asked before where his area of expertise lay and so far have received no answer.

 

"Firpo didn't seem to have too much trouble landing on him"

That is not what I saw. Firpo hit Wills with rabbit punches in the clinches. Other than that he simply missed every punch. Wills easily ducked those overhand rights. Firpo telegraphed his punches, but he managed to hit Dempsey with the same lead right hands.

My take is against Firpo and especially Madden, Wills looks like a rather impressively athletic guy. He is big and rather fast, and well-coordinated. I don't like the way he carries his hands low, but most did back then. But he by no means looks that easy to hit.

For me, it is easy to see why Wills won every, or practically every, round against Firpo.

 

I think Wills shows impressive athleticism for a 35 year old man on the films of the Firpo and Madden fights.

He moves very well and shows good head movement. Not that easy a man to hit.

I like Wills to beat any version of Willard.

*by the way, Wills doesn't look all that slow to me for a big man. He impresses me as moving very well. I noticed he used a jab against Madden. I think a match with Tunney would have been very interesting. My bottom line is even this 35 year old version of Wills looks leagues better than any Dempsey opponent prior to Tunney and Sharkey we have on film.

 

Wills is not beating the Willard that showed up to Havana. That Willard was willing to go through hell to get the job done. While Johnson was past his best, he likely still carried his power pretty well. He hit Willard with everything but the kitchen sink and Willard wasn't the least bit fazed. I've never seen Wills attack with the furry Johnson did that day, so I'm just not seeing how Wills is going to win that type of fight. Most other versions, sure, I would favor Wills.