Who's Legacy was Greater - Calzaghe or Wlad Klitschko?

how can he COMPLETELY END jeffs career in 2006 if Jeff goes on to box another 10 years?

make some sense , not nonsense.

Wlad battered Peter once Peter gassed out, smashed him into submission, way worse. however it was a boxing clinic for jeff for sure. Poor Jeff didnt even know what a southpaw was.

 

, no joe used speed t the expense of accuracy because he didnt have power.

jeff wasnt hurt badly but received a prolonged assault he couldnt stop, its the opposite of what you say, he lasted all night.

Someone with power does the opposite of letting an outclassed opponent last all night.

YOu have proved the opposite of your intent.

 

Calzache was setting a record for title defense the SAME TIME another fight in his division was doing the same. Not a good look.

 

Not quite, young fella.

Right names, wrong order.

The correct order (since the late 90's) is...


1. Roy
2. Floyd
3. Pac
4. Bernard
5. Wlad

 

I'd go with that also. Length of career and achievements.

 

Floyd Mayweather, Jr is a top 10 ATG, so he's #1. Undoubtedly.

 

He's not.

(Though I did make a weak defence of that position the other day).

Roy was better.

 

Not better, nor greater. More athletic though, I agree.

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/whats-your-top-10-p4p-all-time.608797/#post-19231718


(...and the rest of the thread as well.)

 

to be fair, his wbo defences before 2005 were only recognised by the wbo itself, not by the ring, wba, wbc etc.

therefore to everyone outside the wbo he doesnt have a record, ottke has the record, and joe has 6 full recognised defences at SMW. Both Ward and Froch have the same or more, and with way more depth of opposition than Veit and Ashira types.

I'm not sure if thats a worse fact.

 

its not, I;'ve defended him according to the facts many times.

but kliturds see anything non-positive about wlad as a negative trolling attempt, hence they combine forces on here to down anyone not saying something positive. Its takes a lot of them to try and take down one person.

 

good perspective here

 

Wlad didn't stop Peter till he rematched a shot to pieces version of him years later. Robert Helenius ran through that Peter in quicker and more impressive fashion. Wlad couldn't even 'Lacy' a Peter who was totally finished cos he held on in that one fight more than some people would over a whole career.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/09/steward-was-telling-wladimir-to-stop-clinching-peter/

Prime undefeated Lacy should have been pulled out by his corner and by keeping him in there , Joe took 5 years off his career.

Wlad should have been able to toy with Sam Peter (his Jeff Lacy) if he was as good as people say he is. He was almost knocked out by him in an EPIC life n death struggle ffs. lmao!

If Joe was Wlad he would have been knocked out by Eubanks (Sanders) !!!

 

Equal. If it weren't for WK & JC then both dino & Herol would never have made it to the special Olympics.. It takes years of dedication to perfect window licking & head banging & without those Kessler, Lacy, Haye, Hopkins, Pulev etc fight's we'd have never gotten them out of the mosque & into a straight jacket!