Rating of the Heavyweights of New Millenium decade

Is this your way of saying you're not going to bother refuting my arguments?

 

What difference does it make what I think? If I make a list based on what fighters did in the heavyweight division between 2000-2008, you'll likely say things like " Toney was a middleweight who moved up when he was past prime, therefore he deserves greater credit ", or " this fighter was robbed against that fighter, so I'll give him the win ."

Its virtually impossible to argue with someone who pulls stuff like the kind of stuff you're pulling. Most people don't consider either of Peter's wins over Toney as being robberies, but you obviously do, therefore it must be fact right? Maskaev knocks out Rahman twice, but doesn't even make the top 10, yet Rahman get's a number two rating. Sanders Ko's Wlad, and gives Vitali one of the best fights of his life, but get's rated lower than Holyfield who had a record of 6-5-1 from 2000 onward.

What am I supposed to say?

 

Thanks, yes sort of 2000 onwards, ability, dominance, achievements.

 

Toney was shot and way over weight when they fought AND Toney still won the first fight. Toney beat better fighters in Holy, Ruiz, Guin, Jirov too

 

Does anyone here think that Ruslan Chagaev should be in a millenium top 10?

I for one think that he probably should. He's undefeated in 25 fights, ended Valuev's winning streak, and currently holds a world title.

 

NO, he lost to Shitty Skeleton, although I was drunk when I was scoring that 1, but Skeleton threw more and bullyed Chagaev. I was a fan of his fat ass before that performance

What else has he done except beat Valuev who many thought Ruiz and Donald beat?

 

You talk about Toney being shot when Peter beat him, but then credit James for beating a 40 year old Holyfield. If you're going to pat the guy on the back for beating old men like Evander or mediocrities like Guin, then you could at least acknowledge the fact that Peter just beat the livin' snot out of Oleg Maskaev for the WBC title. In fact, that was a more decisive win than any Toney's ever had at heavyweight. Albeit, Maskaev was 39 years of age, and rather innactive, but these are the types of wins that you're giving Toney credit for.

 

Lets look at wins

Lennox - Tyson ATG, Tua

Wlad - Brewster (past prime), Byrd (prime and past prime), Peter (prime), Ibragimov (average), Brock (average)

Rahman - Lewis, Toney (he won that)

Vitali - Sanders (past prime), Johnson (past prime), Donald

Toney - Holyfield, Peter, Ruiz, Guinn, Jirov

Brewster - Wlad, Golota, Krasniqi

 

Well, I certainly think that the Valuev win was a good one, and better than that of anything Toney did.

 

Somehow every split decision or draw, is being turned into a robbery here.