If You managed Bowe ( with hindsight)

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know how it could be different. Bowe's strength was his size a little.. He had a nice left hook, but he fought a lot on the inside and his right was not as great as maybe it could have been. I always thought Bowe would lose to Lennox just on the simple fact Lennox would land his right easier than Bowe would land his left.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is my thinking in the matter.
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Because he needed it for redemption and it was the biggest fight out there. Bowe had the tools beat Lewis. Lennox is the greater fighter but timing is important. Before Manny Steward Lennox was vulnerable. Bowe had a good chance if he went right after Holyfield.

    His career derailed anyway but that fight should have happened. Between those two guys that can't sit well with Bowe.
     
  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I handled Bowe? I'd quit and train someone else. The guy's a headcase.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Lennox was kind of stagnating himself. Look at his performances against Tucker and later Bruno. I think Bowe was much better than those guys.

    Lewis was looking for that right hand but his job wasn't good and his balance was a little suspect. Eddie Futch would of had a decent plan.
     
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  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought Bowe knew Lennox would win, and he avoided him. Lennox would fight anyone, and he lost a few times, but he fought everyone and his right would land. Do you think if Evander could beat Bowe and he was smaller that Lennox would not? Stylistically it is not a great fight for Bowe. He would be at the end of the right all night, and a great right.
     
  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holyfield was a unique fighter in his own right..even so..
    Bowe won 2 out of 3 vs Holyfield and the one he lost could have went either way. I'm not guaranteeing Bowe would have won but it was an even matchup.

    Do you see the difference in Lewis pre and post Manny Steward? Without him he doesn't have the career he had.
     
  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah he made a difference, and in Vlad also. Although that could have coincided with Lennox getting more experience. A little more reliance on the jab as was Vlad after Manny and just better punch output.. Manny just made good fighters fight greater. He sharpened up Manny for the second McCall fight and really I think without him he would have had one more loss. I know he lost to .. what was his name. Rahman, but then came back. I think Manny made Lennox 25 percent better, which is a lot. Manny also made Vlad. better. Manny was brilliant. I remember reading once how he told Lennox to push the jab into Vitali because Vitali crosses his feet and that would push him off balance. He saw things which some guys don't. And actually Eddie Futch said Lennox would have beaten Bowe the same as he did in the amatuers.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not sure they did much wrong through the 3rd Holyfield bout. Bowe was slated to face Mercer, until he was outhustled by The Boogieman, and of the 3 times he negotiated with Lewis, they had agreed to face each other in principle the latter 2.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Joe Louis would have made Lennox end up like Buddy Baer.....on that specific night!!
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    It was all good until he became undisputed champ. Then other promoters and managers tried to freeze him out because of the dislike they had for Rock Newman.
    The swindled that WBC belt right out from under his feet :smile::sisi1
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Lewis did not lose a few times. He lost a couple times.
     
  13. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the early nineties Bowe was the much more polished fighter plus he had Futch who was literally leagues above Lewis' s then trainer.

    The early Lewis pawed with the jab waiting to unload his telegraphed right.........and he fought stiff as a board.........if pro crack head McCall can land a right so will Bowe and once you have Lewis down he stays down, fact, vs Bowe who you cannot keep down even when he was totally washed up and shot to pieces.

    Lewis was always even under Stewart open for a right hand delivered from a big guy who is willing to launch it......that is exactly how Glass cannon Rahman laid him out and you can bet your house that Futch would set up Lewis to run into one of Bowe's right, guaranteed.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know. I don't know why I said that. You type and you don't think. he lost to McCall and Rahman. I know his career. What is the big deal. The fact is he was a good fighter, who benefitted from being bigger... Like Vlad.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Bowe split the title.