Why the US heavyweight scene is in such terrible shape...

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  1. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    When the best usa heavyweight prospect has diabetes, you know they are in bad shape
     
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  2. AJfan

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    HAHAHAH.... I can see how spending 3 years to make $100mn is better than making $50mn before the current deal even ends. AJ must be sure he's gonna lose to Wilder by your logic.

    No serious human being could rate Jarrel Miller as their favourite HW. So you're a troll. Thanks for confirming.
     
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  3. madballster

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    A proper worth ethic is lacking with many US American athletes. Not just in boxing. This new generation of athletes just wants to get handed lots of money and fame without doing anything for it.
     
  4. TheyDontHavDaP4PNo1NoMore

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    Whatever people are saying, there's one thing that's a definite - there can be no excuses.
    USA has 329 current heavyweights ( way more than any other nation), and all the money,TV deals, promoters, trainers, facilities, etc. They get everything on a plate.

    The whole being able to compete in the pro's now is the main reason for their demise.
     
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  5. Vykus

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    Lol, undefeated, fighting for IBF eliminator, WBA, IBF, WBO #3, someone agrees with me. Miller made a 6'6 248 Washington look like an impotent midget and tossed him around like a rag doll, what do think he will do against a 6'7 214 Wilder? Miller will beat up, beat down and break Wilder into pieces, he'll be feasting on Alabama Fried Chicken all night.

    Wilders already on the run. When asked if he'll fight Breazeale or Miller if he doesn't fight AJ next... Wilder says, quote "uuhhh, to be honest, i don't want to fight either of them, we got a whole year before we have to fight... uuhhh... we got a lot things going on...uuuhh...if this fight don't happen we go back to doin what we doin"

    The attitude of a champion lol. This is how you know Deontay is ripe for the picking and looking for a cashout payday.
     
  6. AJfan

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    GTFO Troll. Give us all a little credit. Nobody would seriously write all that BS about a morbidly obese bum like Miller. Nice try though ;)
     
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  7. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I blame it all on Donald Trump.
     
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  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Isn't Kownacki fighting Martin ?

    Breazeale is most likely fighting Wilder.

    4 names out of that list are Haymon fighters, so odds are we won't see many matches.

    Miller would have no need to fight any of those guys bc he's been ranked high and is possibly facing Pulev for a title eliminator.

    If they fight each other it would have no actual relevance of where they are placed bc most of those guys aren't top 10 figthers.

    Martin could be something ?

    Jennings ran his course! I see no improvement since 3 years ago.

    Ruiz Jr. Is not made to break into anything special.

    Kownacki can fight , he's a question mark?



    Miller and Breazeale are formidable guys !


    Trey Morrison could develope into the lead U.S fighter if all comes together but that's not happening soon, he's about 2 years from those guys.
     
  9. JacK Rauber

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    Boxing, in general, tends to flourish where it is most impoverished (Mexico, Thailand, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan). The US and the UK have both become decadent, PC, effeminate melting pots. Then you have to look to areas that are impoverished/less developed AND have an inclination toward combat type sports. Even more affluent societies that take pride in manliness do well in boxing (Japan).
     
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  10. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I feel its in a far better shape than it was during Wlads dominating era where there was nobody. I keep hearing all these young big guys are scouted and snapped up on college scholerships to Basketball and Football before the Boxing avenue can even be shown to them. Hopefully having a world champion in Wilder can promote the sport to the next generation.
     
  11. gmurphy

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    Usyk beats all guys mentioned
     
  12. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    For real. Said it on the radio 2 weeks ago. Can find it on you tube. He wont fight Breazeale or Miller. Why? Hes petrified. Look at his US competition; Worlds luckiest journeyman Molina, shot to pieces Arreola, beached whale/scuba diver Stiverne, NFL Washington... Theres a reason the US heavyweight scene is going down, its because Wilder wont fight anybody in it.

    Miller is a 300 super heavyweight, Wilder is almost a cruiserweight at 214. Miller will beat Wilder to a pulp before picking him up and tossing him out of the ring hulkamania style. Klitchsko, Povetkin, Breazeale, Whyte, Ortiz (till he got old), you can add Miller to the list of contenders the Alabama Fried Chicken is petrified of and on the run from whilst he holds out for a cashout paycheck.
     
  13. AJfan

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    STFU Troll. The whole world is desperate for Wilder-AJ and you expect us to believe you can't stop fantasising about a fat AF bum who's fought nobody? Whatever beetch.

    HW boxing is back because The Mack obliterated Wlad. Stop being such a winey little ho and enjoy it.
     
  14. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Bit rich from a Price fan... :lol::lol::lol:

    Miller has fought 2 of Wilder's 'title contenders' in his last 3 fights. If he's fought nobodies then thanks for admitting Wilders ducking and level of opposition.

    'beetch' is spelled '*****'.

    Heavyweight boxing is back because Joshua is cleaning out the division, drawing 90,000 stadium crowds, and getting contenders multi-million dollar paydays. Fury has been on a deep fried/beer/cocaine diet for the last 3 years during that time, no ones even sure if he's got it anymore.

    Miller massacres Wilder. The only real interest in AJ vs Wilder is to see if Wilder can actually get his cashout payday and whether or not he will fold faster than Martin.

    Has he signed the contract yet? nuff said...
     
  15. AJfan

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    #TrollinLikeABeeeeeeeetch