Would Wladimir Klitschko have gone as far without Vitali Klitschko?

Would Wladimir Klitschko have gone as far without Vitali Klitschko?

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This is not a slur. Far from as I think Wladimir and Vitali are two of the best HWs ever. Both right up there with the best.
Wladimir, historically based on achievements is most likely rated higher than Vitali regardless of who anyone thinks was the better fighter or who would have won if they were ever to have fought.

The question below...
Now when both were active although different fighters I always had the impression that if either won, I felt it was often deemed as like another victory to Klitschko as if it was one fighter rather than two fighters reigning. Like if you lost to one you had been beaten by both kind of scenario rather than it be two seperate fighters.

Now dont misunderstand me as Wladimir has many really good HW wins and possibly the best win during this time but when Vitali returned in 2008 to when he retired in 2012 Vitali fought
Peter 30-1
Gomez 44-1
Arreola 27-0
Johnson 22-0-1
Sosnowski 45-2-1
Briggs 51-5-1
Solis 17-0
Adamek 44-1
Chisora 15-2
Charr 21-0

Wladimir inside that time from Vitalis first fight back and last fight, fought
Rahman 45-6-2
Chagaev 25-0-1
Chambers 35-1
Peters 34-3
Haye 25-1
Mormeck 36-4
thompson 36-2



The point im trying to make (and not doing a good job of it) is that it was 2 fighters who cleared out the division at that time. Not one yet if either lost to one of the brothers it seemed like they had had their title shot, beaten by a Klitschko and thats that kind of feeling(I know Peter got to fight both).
I dont doubt that Wladimir could have beaten any on Vitalis list but my thought is that without Vitali clearing away the other contenders some would not have a Klitschko loss and be able to win a title themselves.
Had there only been one fighter, not as many of the contenders would have been beaten over that time, so the question is would Wladimir Klitschko have gone as far without Vitali Klitschko?

What do you think?

 

Dont know, but I was asking peoples opinions about Wladimir as he was the fighter who I think many would rate higher and who had the titles.
I think Vitali would be at the same point as he wasnt contesting the other titles and just holding the one and possibly clearing away other contenders

 

I dont doubt that Wladimir could have beaten any on Vitalis list but my thought is that without Vitali clearing away the other contenders some would not have a Klitschko loss and be able to win a title themselves

I may not have explained well enough and you didnt completely understand what I was probably badly trying to ask

 

Yeah thats kind of how I see it.
I think Wlad is a great HW but C Sanders after beating Wladimir wasnt rematched by Wladimir but fought Vitali next.
S Peter gave Wladimir a tough time and knocked him down 3 times. Peter then went on a good run before he was badly beaten by Vitali

 

Good interesting post and I didnt mean any offence either. I just thought I was doing a bad job of explaining what I was asking.
I thought Sosnowski was decent. Vitali seemed to damage his opponents. I wonder if it was because he was a very solid hitter if not a one punch KO artist, so the opponents often took very bad beatings.
DoubleJ made some good points in his post also

 

None of that is in question
Did you read the whole thread? I'm not being sarcastic just asking.
The first post from DoubleJ is understanding what I was asking

 

No trolling
I like wlad and rate him highly, just sort of felt at the time that if you lost to one klitschko you were almost out of the title picture whereas with now with the titles not being with one family fighters beaten by Joshua and Wilder may get an opportunity against the other for example