Is Mike Tyson a top 10 ATG heavyweight?

Personally top ten i am not so sure about, lots of great names ahead of him.

His achievements at such a young age will probably never be matched, i would have him about 12-15 to be honest but this is boxing and many opinions differ from different fans, but the only ones who know truly are the fighters he faced.

Like the late great Terry Lawless "RIP" said after Tyson Bruno 1, "I don't know how guys get out for the first bell because when facing Tyson, he is Awesome".

 

Imagine the crap Tyson haters would give him if he had to get off the floor to beat a40 year old Spinks who didnt have Mackie Shilstone or a 40 year old Holmes.

Don't forget that in the pre PED era every year over 30 is like 2-3 years today and 38 back then was ancient.


Tyson also had his fair share of past their peak opponents but in terms of young, strong , big fighters under 30, Tyson's Resumee Just destroys Marciano.
Tucker
Ruddock
Thomas
Williams
Bruno
Tubbs


Not to mention Seldon Stewart Biggs Mathis Etienne.

 

Not in terms of career achievements?

Youngest HW champion

Unified champion

Undisputed champion

Twice world champion

5 times a belt winner

Many defences

What more does a guy have to do to get the millenials' approval?

 

Neither is Wladimir's or Vitali's or Foreman's but people have no problem fellating them on here.

 

LOL

Foreman basically had TWO Hall of Fame careers.

 

For me yes. Probably bosses as he was my favourite fighter growing up. Iron Mike is still my favourite nickname

 

Sure....but how many 'names' on his record?

Only Ali has enough 'names' on his record to be the GOAT.

Wladimir has zero

Vitali has zero

Tyson has Holmes and Spinks (argue what you will)

Holyfield has Lewis, Holmes and Foreman

 

Are you serious ?

He got beaten twice by Lewis, and never met Foreman nor Holmes till they were both grand-daddies !

 

Still ATG names....

Who has Wlad or Vitali got...?

 

No.

One of them spanked him around the ring like he stole something and the other two made their ring entries in wheelchairs.

And he STILL struggled with both geriatrics, unable to put either one away.

Those names do NOT count in any serious discussion.

(I'm not sure why you ignored his wins over Tyson, the best part of his resume !)

Neither one of them have any great names.

Wlad's greatness rests on longevity and dominance and a number of decent but not ATG names.

Byrd, Chagaev, Haye, Peter, Chambers, Povetkin and such.

Vitali doesn't come close to cracking the top ten.

 

I have Tyson at 10, just behind Liston and just above Holyfield.

 

Ali
Louis
Lewis
Marciano
Holmes
Frazier
Johnson
Foreman
Liston
Tyson
Holyfield
Dempsey
Wills
Wlad
Jeffries

 

No, not for me, although every casual thinks different.

 

What is this, a popularity contest for you with ‘names on record’?