I see a 75-76 ron lyle giving joe louis a dangerous fight

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Max schmeling a big puncher? Lmao
    Schmeling was not even close to lyle in hitting power department, not even close.
    And yes. Joe louis had a mediocre chin
     
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    It is your opinion, another thing would be if anybody will agree with this nonsense.

    Lyle was much better than galento and buddy baer and both them did hurt louis badly
     
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    It's NOT my opinion that Lyle didn't knock out ranked contenders as a rule.

    That's fact.
     
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    Tell me who did shavers actually knock out?.
    Ridiculous argument
     
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  5. McGrain

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    In arguing that Lyle might knock out ****ing Joe Louis it's a "ridiculous argument" to mention that he didn't knock out many good fighters?

    :lol: :lol:
     
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    When did this happen ?
     
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    My argument is simple... Louis got hurt and was down by 2 guys that were worse than lyle and probably did not hit as hard
     
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    When? Maybe when buddy did put him out of the ring?
     
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  9. McGrain

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    My argument is simple.

    Lyle wasn't that good and was the type of guy Louis chewed up absolutely routinely.

    Lyle has gone about as far on his war with Foreman as Dempsey did his with Firpo.

    But yes, it's possible that Lyle would connect and hurt Louis.
     
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    Louis didn't look hurt to me when Galento dropped him ,he looked pissed off. After getting untangled from the ropes against Baer, Louis didnt look fazed at all to me. I don't think either, "badly hurt him." Nor would I call his chin "mediocre".
     
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  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Louis was very good in several departments but his chin was not one of them
     
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    it is not truth at all, in fact lyle would be the best puncher that a prime louis fought.
    I am not picking lyle to win,but he got a much better chance than what you are giving him
     
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    Based upon which knockouts?
     
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    Based on he had foreman down twice? Early . and george had way better chin than louis
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Lyle hit hard, but he didn't hit concussively. He was a "thumper" for want of a better word, and a lot of stuff he threw was hard.

    I'm satisfied that Walcott and Schmeling were both more devastating punchers and both have the KOs to prove it.

    Probably stood in front of a machine that measures power, Lyle would landed the heaviest punch. In the ring, he landed almost zero concussive punches against meaningful opposition. Here's the reason for that:

    he wasn't that good.

    Early KO for Joe.
     
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