Most protected fighter in boxing

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Matthysse was and is way past his best, he's far removed from the beast that was prior to Garcia. Postol after Bud went life and death with a journeyman and then pur in a spirited performance last night.

    However both Indongo and Postol have lost since Bud beat them, Prograis brushed him aside far more impressive and Postol just lost to a 12 fight fighter.

    Not really glowing and to say Jacobs would lose if he fought someone as good as Taylor....how is Taylor better than Jacobs? Taylor is more proven, beaten the better fighters.

    Pacquaio is a short, old fighter who is playing boxing. The fact that Horn beat him at that stage in his career should have no bearing on anything that Horn has achieved. I guarantee you will not hear from him again after the next time he steps up.

    160 wasn't stacked but it was no worse than the Hopkins era and it was better than having Indongo and Burns as your better fighters at a weight.

    Also you never saw Golovkin struggle with fighters of the cloth of a Robert Allen or a Segundo Mercado or an Antwun Echols.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its all well and good to bash Crawfords record , but that isn't making any case for Golovkins being any better

    I provided reasons why Craws is better without bashing Golovkins record whereas you haven't made any pro-Golovkin counter argument to disprove the points i made.
     
  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I don't agree with your comments in regards to Buds calibre of opposition and tbh whatever I say in regards to Golovkin will just be ignored as you have an agenda no matter what is put in front of you in regards to both Wlad and GGG.

    Plus I'm out enjoying the weather and the football, I have better things to be doing.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You were here while posting while we were playing Panama , so i take that as you not having any pro-Golovkin argument to give.
     
  5. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Danny Garcia was for a couple years but him fighting Porter is a huge step in changing that narrative about him.

    I get the criticism on Wilder to an extent, but he did just beat a highly skilled and avoided fighter in Ortiz and has been clamoring for a fight with Joshua so I don't think he can really be criticized too much anymore.
     
  6. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I was and still am but here we go.

    Golovkin was avoided by Sturm, Abraham and the top fighters prior to him becoming champion.

    Since he became the first guy to stop Ouma at world level he has faced 19 opponents, 16 of them where current, former champs or ex title challengers.

    He has avoided nobody.

    He destroyed in 1 round Simon who had just gone 12 with Abraham.

    Macklin, Proksa, Stevens, Adama, Monroe jr all solid C level opposition along the lines of you Burns...your Indongo's and where dealt with as such.

    Rubio was brushed aside in 2, the same Rubio who Pavlik was unable to drop and took him 9 and in his very next fight went the full 12 with Dirrell.

    Then we have your Geales...your Lemieux....your....Martin Murray type fighters B/C level opposition and again brushed aside.

    Vanes again destroyed like no one else has ever done.

    Then we have his stand out victories against Jacobs and the bull**** draw against Canelo in a fight he dominated both these fighters are head and shoulders above anybody that Crawford has fought.

    Crawford has been fed a steady diet of D level opposition and again if Ricky Burns is your top 3 best wins you have problems.

    Also Crawford starts camp about the same as Golovkin....he could and should have gone to 147 sooner.

    Throw into the mix Golovkin is P4P number 1 or above Crawford on most sane P4P lists unless you can explain how beating Horn makes you suddenly number 1?

    Again I'm out so it may take me a while to get back to you as I know you will continue to troll.
     
  7. Above Deck

    Above Deck Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would acknowledge the fact that Golovkin didn't take many risks, but he flooded the fans with many fights throughout his come up. The fact of the matter is Golovkin was too big of a risk for the title holders, so his best option was to just continue fighting as much as possible - for those who would actually hop in the ring with him. Don't get me wrong, not for one second am I a GGG fan (I think its pathetic he preached belts only to come unstuck chasing a quid), but GGG didn't take risks due to title holders seeing HIM as a big risk. It wasn't entirely his fault. In fact, it mostly wasn't his fault.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Thanks for the rundown of Golovkin's life story.

    I never knew he beat Lajuan Simon in one round. Impressive. Did you know Craw beat the same Breidis Prescot who flatlined Khan in the first round? Who did Simon beat? Nobody.
    Prescott is the better win.

    Jacobs was a guy who wasn't rated by anybody , was expected to get blown away , yet ended up almost beating GGG and many felt he should have won.
    Postal is a better win and he was dominated by Craw. This is because Crawford has a better resume.

    I already explained why Horn is a better win than Lemiuex and you still haven't made any rebuttal why he isn't.

    Also Crawford did not start camps at 180lbs. He weighed 150lbs 30 days out against Postal. . I don't know what to tell you if you believe he was entering camps and shedding off 40 + pounds in weight before fights. :qmeparto:
     
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  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    The spiritual break/sojourn has gone on for too long for my liking. Is he going to return from his mountain hideaway as Batman? :lol:
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    What has Prescott and Simon got anything to do with?

    Jacobs > Postol
    Canelo> Gamboa
    Lemieux > Burns
    Geale > Horn
    Murray > Beltran
    Macklin > Diaz
    Rubio > Dulorme
    Brook > Molina jr

    I could go on but you are a boring pathetic little man.

    Postol has 1 good win over a damaged matthysse, Jacobs standout win over Quillin is better.

    As for Crawford starting camp at 180 I can give you the link if you want? In fact there is a thread on thus exact forum about it. Do you want me to show you?
     
  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/posts/18987523/

    Now sit down and read....that's a good boy.
     
  12. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’d be more interested in seeing the most unprotected fighters to be honest...
     
  13. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anthony Yarde turned down numerous fighters at domestic level and world level, and is still feasting on low level Eurobums.
     
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  14. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    +1 for Yarde
     
  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You brought up Simon , so I countered with Prescott. Its not that difficult to comprehend.

    Postal was the WBC Champ and the highest rated 140 pounder in the division when Crawford beat him.

    Jacobs was a second tier champ and rated #2 in the division.

    GGG ending Jacobs was seen as a certainly whereas a few believed Crawford would lose to Postal. Craw would do better against Postal than GGG done against Jacobs.

    Beating Lucas is better than beating Quillin so Crawford was faced with the better opponent going into the fight.

    Lucas also beating E- Taylor and Kiram to became a second tier champ is better than Qillin sitting on the shelf cos he hasn't the mental strength to continue fighting.

    Therefore Postal >> Jacobs.

    And Horn >> Lemieux..

    Prove me wrong.
     
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