[RING, Nov. 1981] Greatest Hispanic Fighters of All Time poll

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    1981 Ring Magazine November 1981, p. 34

    The Ring asked “a select panel--which included such experts as Tito Lectoure, Fausto Miranda, John Reyes, Ferdie Pacheco, Ernesto Chequis Bialo, Baney Nagler, Jim Murray, Ed Schuyler, Budd Schulberg, Tommy Lopez, Rafael Mendoza, Dick Young, and Bob Waters”—to pick their 10 “Greatest” Latin fighters from a list of 100.”

    Interesting results...

    Name (number of votes)

    1. Carlos Monzon (39)

    2. Kid Gavilan (38)

    3. Roberto Duran (36)

    4. Kid Chocolate (34)

    5. Alexis Arguello (29)

    6. Eder Jofre (24)

    7. Jose Napoles (23)

    8. Wilfredo Gomez (22)

    9. Sixto Escobar (19)

    10. Wilfred Benitez (14)

    11. Carlos Ortiz (12)

    12. Jose Torres (11)

    13. Ismael Laguna (11)

    14. Pascual Perez (10)

    15. Panama Al Brown (10)

    16. Salvador Sanchez (9)

    17. Alberto Arizmendi (8)

    18. Antonio Cervantes (7)

    19. Ultiminio Ramos (6)

    20. Luis (Angel) Firpo (5)

    21. Ruben Olivares (5)

    22. Luis Roderiguez (4)

    23. Miguel Canto (3)

    24. Mexican Joe Rivers (3)

    25. Victor Galindez (2)

    26. Carlos Zarate (2)

    27. Carlos Palomino (2)

    28. Ricardo Cardona (1)

    29. Vincente Saldivar (1)

    30. Benny (Kid) Paret (1)
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Monzon still the best
     
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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Whoever voted for Jofre is a dumbass not an expert cause Jofre is not hispanic.

    Knowing Pacheco i bet he was one of the idiots who voted for him.
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Benitez is way too high (especially pre-Duran). Monzon’s too high. Firpo probably doesn’t belong above any of the guys ranked below him.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Me no likie.

    Anyway, as far as I can make it out:

    01 - Roberto Duran
    02 - Carlos Monzon
    03 - Ruben Olivares
    04 - Eder Jofre
    05 - Kid Gavilan
    06 - Julio Cesar Chavez
    07 - Manuel Ortiz
    08 - Jose Napoles
    09 - Alexis Arguello
    10 - Carlos Ortiz

    That was really hard though. It's all wrong.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Ruben Olivares at #21 is the worst thing i've seen since Rodney King.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Where do Barrera, Morales, Marquez(es), and Finito Lopez fall on your list?
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Julio Cesar Chavez? In 1981? No.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By 1981, Benitez had already beaten Antonio Cervantes and Carlos Palomino, who are both on the list, and was one of only seven men who had ever won titles in three divisions. (No one had won titles in four divisions yet. It was still the era of same-day weigh-ins.)

    Benitez belongs in the top 10 all-time in 1981.

    Just shows how many great Latino fighters there have been over the last 27 years.

    Also shows that Duran's fall from grace had begun since, up to that point in 1981, Duran (with a record of 73-2) had beaten everyone he'd faced as a pro. But the loss in the Leonard rematch really bothered people.
     
  10. red cobra

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    I 100% agree...I've always thought Monzon was the greatest Hispanic/Latino boxer of all.
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra VIP Member Full Member

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    Well, they got it right with Monzon, but Napoles is way too low...he should be right after Monzon, just ahead of Gavilan, and it's totally absurd to rank Jose Torres over Victor Galindez IMO.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Marquez the elder, Barrera and Morales: lower.

    Marquez the younger and Finito Lopez: lower than them.
     
  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They left Eddie "the Animal" Lopez off the List for some reason.....a Latin Heavyweight.