Calzaghe vs Ward break down of strengths? Very even across board

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  1. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    Joe would never have entered the Super Six or signed on the dotted line to fight Kovalev.

    Ward clearly lost that first fight against Kovalev, but he actually made it. No way in hell Joe does.

    Joe's best win is Kessler then it falls off a cliff to a 44 year old Hopkins. Andre beat Kessler much worse, and beat Kovalev in the rematch, and actually cleaned out a 168 pound division with more talent in it than the washed up Eubank and shot RJJ. ****, Joe fought Mario Veit twice AS CHAMPION. What a joke.
     
  2. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Eubank was 32, he wasn't washed in any way, plus Calzaghe beat a Kessler who was unbeaten and on the top of his game and didn't need to foul en route to a W.

    As for Veit, Hopkins fought Robert Allen 3 times.....I'll leave it there.
     
  3. DoubleJ

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    Ward fought Kessler 2 years later, nearly to the day. Mikkel had boxed fewer than 20 rounds in between. There wasn't a big difference in the Kessler that fought either man. And I've left sparring sessions looking worse than Mikkel left the ring after Joe.

    Eubank would never win another fight after Joe. He was toast.
    RJJ was shot, completely. Joe's the only guy of note to NOT knock him out.

    Edwin Rodriguez would probably be Joe's third best win. Seriously. That's how thin Joe's resume is. And he's not in Andre's top 5.

    Joe has no counterpart to even Froch.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wrong. I told you - 2 butts. Its you who haven't and can't provide an answer. Why can't you tell me how many butts he landed?

    Ward needing to foul to win is your opinion and i couldn't care less about it because its wrong. How many butts landed against Kessler isn't a matter of opinion since the exact number can be easily proven. Ward head butting Kessler to victory is a myth peddled by the haters.
    One butt was accidental and the other in the 10th round was dubious. By the 10th round Kessler had already lost every round which proves Ward didn't need any butts to completely dominate Kessler.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Calzaghe 12-0 Ward
    GGG KO5 Ward (hence the duck)
    Beterbiev KO1 Ward (hence the "retirement")
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I see you've graduated from marijuana to crack.

    :smoking:
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat 17 fighters who was either current or former champions or fighters who had fought or went on to fight for a world title.

    Froch would get shut out, he arguably lost to Dirrell, was lucky against Taylor and lost to semi shot Kessler.

    As for Rodriguez please explain why he should be held so lofty.....you said it now please explain.

    Froch has no right to be mentioned in the same sentence as Calzaghe.
     
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  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Well the commentators themselves counted 5 butts that they noticed and that is on the video I sent you....and there was probably more.

    So you say 2, Bernstein says 5 hat he noted.....I know who I'm going with.

    It was a disgusting display of fouling and hone cooked refereeing....something so hate JC fights for but seem to overlook or ignore here....I bet you vote Labour as Well.
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    What time in the video does Bernstien say there were 5 headbutts? All i want is the time so i can hear it for myself????
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    accepting the 3 fight deal for ODLH, I know you pretend that didnt happen becos OLH is levels above joe and the 90s wbo title.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    didnt, you already know my reply.
     
  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Have a look told you already I'm not doing your work for you.

    Actually I got it mixed up, it was Reiss who said there was at least 5 "accidental" headbutt....it was Bernstein who described him as a Billy Goat.
     
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  15. Odins beard

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    He fought DLH in 2004, yet Hakkar was instead of Calzaghe in 2003.

    So now all of a sudden ODLH who got a gift over Sturm is a better win at 160 than moving up to fight Joe at 168....yeah....but no.