No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

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  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk, Gassiev and Dorticos weigh pretty much the same as the likes of Ali, Foreman and Frazier, if not even more on fight night. So yes, by today's standard, they are also cruiser weights and not super heavyweights like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.

    And yes, I believe Usyk totally dominates and shuts out Foreman, Frazier and Ali. And I also believe Gassiev walks through them all and thrashes them. Foreman is basically a poor man's Gassiev to me. Nostalgic persuasion doesn't work with me. Boxing has evolved and so have I. You can stick to the past and convince yourself that past boxers are invincible compared to modern ones but not me.
     
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  2. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You sir, are a fool. I'm going out to lunch, but you are going to receive a much needed remedial crash course in rudimentary logic later today, free of charge. You're welcome.
    (See my earlier posts in this thread to get a foretaste of just how utterly clueless you are.)
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good stuff.

    Keep on postin'
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't have to be concerned about me. Only thing that matters, are the points in this thread. For all you know, I may just be an advanced, alien artificially intelligent system. So your initial assumptions already exposes you. But that's okay!
     
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  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sure! Modern athletes are indeed very "GOOD STUFF".
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    There are no points , just opinions. Who did Uysk and Gassiev beat to lead you to believe they would trash Foreman , Ali and Frazier.
     
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  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Modern > Ancient!
     
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  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Briedis and Lebedev. I also saw Foreman getting demolished by a feather fist named Jimmy Young. Getting dropped embarrassingly.

    I also saw Ali looking like an amateur against the same Jimmy Young. Looking totally lost!

    Usyk is literally in another universe compared to Jimmy Young! Gassiev is on another level compared to the clowns that Foreman struggled with and even beat.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Ken Norton was better than Bredids and Foreman blew him out in a few rounds.

    Lebadev was beaten by caveman Huck. Frazier would beat Huck savagely. Jerry Quarry was a lot better than Huck and he could last more than 4 rouns agisnt frazier
     
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  11. Jacob Hall

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    sorry but takam whos a midget was able to tag joshua no problem, these guys today are big but skill wise they are way off.
     
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  12. Hookie

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    This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever read on this forum and there have been many dumb comments on this forum.

    Who are we talking about? Bowe, Lewis, V. and W. Klitschko, Fury, Wilder, Joshua?

    So let me get this straight... are you saying that guys like Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, and Holyfield don't stand a chance?
     
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  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Ken Norton was better than Breidis, he wouldn't hold losses to clowns like Jose Luis Garcia in embarrassing fashion via KO. Or to Gerry Cooney.

    Briedis has knocked guys out unconscious. Literally put guys to sleep moving backwards. Breidis would make Foreman look like a relatively weak puncher by today's standard. Not to mention, a mummy.

    Dorticos alone hits just as hard as Foreman, if not harder. Dorticos would arguably put Frazier in a coma. We all saw what an inexperienced Gassiev do to Dorticos.

    Lebedev was Gassiev's opponent when he was still inexperienced and he past the test. Whilst Foreman was exposed by an inferior Jimmy Young. Gassiev would murder clowns like Jimmy Young.
     
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  14. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, they do but no more than 10% of a chance.
     
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  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    "No boxer, be it from the current heavyweight division or from the past heavyweight division would stand more than 10% of a chance at beating today's super heavyweights."

    I have directly addressed this.
     
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