Calzaghe vs Ward break down of strengths? Very even across board

Not at all. If a poster has a clear track record of constantly promoting white fighters and bashing black ones, that isn't my fault.

In the month or so I've been around I've seen it in multiple threads. His agenda is transparent. I can't be the only one who recognizes it.

Just look at the Wlad vs. Lewis thread, the Terrence Crawford threads, this one. There s a clear pattern. Race clearly matters to him.

 

Understood. My favorite fighters list is a veritable UN. I have a bias towards styles and ambition, but not race. You won't have to worry about that from me, although I'm far from perfect.

 

You need to go watch another sport.

I've given you facts that not once have you addressed.

Hopkins was a weak win yet he's Kovalevs best win 6 years after JC.

Kessler is both JC and Wards best win at 168 yet JC beat an undefeated version.

Calzaghe beat 11 champions, yet he's weak and just Gatti level..hmmmm.

I'm going to leave it there, as for Ward v Calzaghe it would be a great but ugly/messy fight that I could envision JC pulling away and edging.

However, as much as Calzaghes career is discredited as is Wards overrated.

 

What you've done is nitpick what I've said and spun the conversation in a ton of directions like a house wife. What you have yet to do is list a run of Joe's opposition that you feel is equal or greater to Ward's run. The simple reason is that one does not exist.

Joe and Gatti are only linked because they went into the Hall together, a fact I'm sure you forgot. My opinion that that induction class represents a low for the Hall overall does not equate the two. Gatti actually stepped up and fought Oscar and Floyd, but was a far more limited fighter. Joe would have had a Gatti/Mayweather experience had he faced a prime Roy, which is why he didn't.

 

how on earth is 49 year old man Kovalevs best win? KOvalev isnt joe calzghe! He didnt go out looking for old names to add to his resume because he realised at age 35 he didnt have even one.

 

froch was the better win, and then dawson or kessler, then many other good names.

for JC, kessler was best win, then a 43 year old, and then ..goodness. what a crap choice.


thats point the other guy is making. you cant pretend that your lies are the truth.. You have to reply to the person that you are replying to, not to a voice in your head.

 

Get used to it, but the reverse is far far worse imo, if everyone's honest..Its embarrassingly one sided

 

No you compared Calzaghe to Gatti, just like you said Wards 175 resume was vastly superior and I've asked you to negate what I've said, which you haven't, not once have you just talked gibberish.

I'll break it down.

1. Calzaghe is a foot note compared to Ward......JC had more defences, beat more champions and his best win at 168 is Wards as Well.

2. Ward has a vastly superior 175 resume....Ward beat Kovalev who was top 5 P4P at the time, his best win was Hopkins.....JC had a weak run at 175 in your opinion yet he beat Hopkins who was top 3 P4P and he did it 6 years before Kovalev.

I have no problem with you thinking Ward beats Calzaghe, I'm not a fan of either but you are twisting truths to suit your agenda.

 

What was Kovalevs best wins prior to Ward 1.

 

A drained Dawson who then knocked out in the next round against Stevenson and went on a journeyman role.

 

the same as his best win including his whole resume, not part of it, no difference.

you trying to manipulate the figures? why you choosing "part resume"?

 

So who was it?

Top 3 wins for Kovalev prior to Ward 1....in your opinion.