No boxer shorter than 6 foot 4 inches would be favorite to beat modern super heavyweights

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/images/1975-Muhammad-Ali-Joe-Frazier-017041036_0.jpg this is Ali weighing 225lbs fight night, not some promotional pic before training in between fights,this ain’t modern day fighters they came in shape not flabby.

 

You used the fight from 1975 when both were shot and no longer in top form. Muhammad Ali had already been a pro for around 15 years and already had 45 fights under his belt while Frazier had been a pro for 10 years, but refused to train hard after the fight of the century. Frazier after 1971 was coasting and was only ever able get himself in to shape one more time, which was for the Bugner fight, but every other fight he showed up in horrible shape. Even Futch in an old Sports Illustrated talked about Durham begging him not to walk away from training Frazier after Frazier showed up in awful shape in 3 back to back fights in the Daniels, Stander, and first Foreman fight. Futch actually wanted Frazier to retire after the first Ali fight and in hindsight we can see why.

This is Frazier and Ali in 1971 when both were in top form.

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Exactly that’s the promo picture smack the bum used to show out of shape when not true what’s your point?

 

Even Tyson?

 

The 60's cruiser version of Ali would never have stand a chance against Foreman.

Fat Ali>Skinny Ali.

 

Ali early in his career would've performed much better than he did when he was older and heavier. Levi Forte, who regularly fought at under 200 pounds made Foreman look like a clown in the ring and even told Ali that George was strong, but a complete dope against an elusive fighter and that he would break in the later rounds.

Also, Muhammad Ali was never a cruiserweight. After the age of 20 Ali was consistently over 200 lbs and the Cruiserweight division didn't even exist until the late 70's. Even if it did A great fighter like Ali would never fight in a mediocre division like the cruiserweight division.

Holyfield could've easily reigned as undisputed cruiserweight champ for many years if he wanted, but knew being the champion of a mediocre division was worthless and quickly ditched the cruiserweight division for the heavyweight division.

 

Ali weighed 201 lbs as late as 1966. (Prime) on sameday weigh in without rehydration. Try again. He was a natural cruiser with some fat and water weight. Thus 209-214 on regular.

 

There is no cruiserweght ALi, never was never would be ,Ali 6ft 3 and 1/2 weighing between 220lbs and 227lbs was way too fast for these modern super heavyweights and George foreman.ALI wasn’t quite 6ft 4 and first of all when matching fighters generally you would match them prime for prime as near as damn it, when Ali won his first title in 1964 aged just 22 yrs he was 210lbs in weight just a baby not fully grown into his frame yet, but because the heavies were smaller he would yo-yo up and down between 205-212lbs until 25yrs old depending on the weight of opponent eg even training down as low as 201lbs to fight a lower weight opponent so he didn’t lose his speed advantage against under 200lbs fighters. his last fight in 1967 he weighed 212-213 for foley then into exile aged 25yrs still a baby, by 1970 he was struggling to stay under 220lbs having to train down a lot harder, as he was now 28-29yrs (man weight) he fought Frazier at 215lbs because Frazier was still reasonably light but now the heavies in general we’re getting heavier into the late sixties early seventies now more 215-225lbs so making it easier for Ali to make his natural weight for his frame around 220lbs to 227lbs depending on his opponent, that’s why in 1971 aged 29 yrs he fought three times in the space of 6-8 months weighing 220lbs then 227lbs then back down to 220lbs in other words he could move up and down between 220lbs and 230lbs without being fat because he was naturally a decent size heavy, so let’s take the three top super heavies 1st wilder weighing 215-230lbs Ali comes in at 218-220 for him prime age let’s say 27-28yrs (wilder no chance landing that big right hand one sided battering Ali win) Joshua best weight 240-242 Ali comes in at 225lbs still way too fast for josh after seeing him struggle landing on a 235lbs Parker only 17lbs weight difference( one sided beat down ALi win) now fury 242-250 ALi 225lbs again bearing in mind a 37yr old-fully grown cruiser topping out at 210lbs got through his size for seven rounds and even knocked him down what does ALi do who is 15lb heavier faster hand and foot than Cunningham has a better chin and endurance. ALi win a one sided beat down) I also appreciate ALi wasn’t quite as fast at 29 than 22 or 25yrs but at 27 -28 with no lay off weighing 225lbs his real prime it’s obvious he would still be way too fast for these heavies.
https://www.google.com/search?q=muh..._AUIESgB&biw=375&bih=553#imgrc=V0mnh5vutJDesM:
: This is a pic of ALi dwarfing 6ft3 Bruno in height hand size ect

I can keep posting the same FACTS all the time

 

I said was consistently over 200 lbs, which he was. Regardless Ali from the 60's embarrasses Foreman no matter what he weighs in at. Foreman throughout this entire career struggled with mobility, counter punching, and handspeed, which Ali had in abundance in his prime. Ali from the 60's makes Foreman quit faster.

 

Ali was 6'2 according to himself his trainer and his passport. Its also obvoius Foreman stod taller at 6'3 than him.

At 201 pounds (1966) he was less than 1% bigger than a cruiser. Also without water cutting. You make the conclusion. If there was a 190 lbs weight limit he would have made that without any problem with todays pre day weigh in and rehydration routines...

Regardless of all that. Fat Ali at 220 pounds was a better optimized version for the 70's landscape. You got to keep up with the competition. Lewis did the same thing going in to the 2000's

 

The facts don’t lie Ali had one fight against cooper in 66 because cooper was really light then straight went back to 212ish the pic posted earlier of Ali on fight night against Frazier weighing 225 no fat.the pic of ali taller than Bruno who was always 6ft3 unless Bruno was only 6ft 1 and a half but we know he wasn’t, you have no argument don’t make me pull out the video of ALi stooping over with Parkinson’s same height as Shannon Briggs 6 ft 3 you can’t try and make ali smaller than he was too much proof even the poster you put on earlier had 6ft 3 on it
how much proof do you want lol

 

I have his own statemant. His trainers. His passport. Picture with foreman from fightnight. And many more. Fighters always want to add an inch or two on their profile. You seriously dont think that Ali would have made cruiser with preday weigh in, water cutting and rehydration?!

 

Ali and Holyfield: https://www.google.com/search?clien...67j0i8i13i30.vzDGFifbLaM#imgrc=_J55uIRnQCdAZM:

Holyfield on celebheights: https://www.celebheights.com/s/Evander-Holyfield-4506.html

 

You need to make your mind up the other week you told me a 31 year old fully grown bodied Usyk who weighed 199 on weigh in would be fighting and walking around at 215-220,if that’s true what is Ali weighing on fight night when he weighs 220-225 on weigh in so the answer is no, like I said before Ali under 25 yrs old might have if he really really tried to boil down and make himself weaker but a fully grown prime Ali 28 yrs and over no chance too big and Ali only looks 1/2 inch smaller than 6ft 4 foreman anyway. And they are pics af Ali ravaged with Parkinson’s not able to lift his neck up properly. the pics I provide are the fighters stood next too each other straight up not bent over or further back for perspective lol

 

Foreman was a legit 6"3. Ali not.

Usyk walks around that weight no problem. Some cardio and water cutting and he is the living proof of how Ali would have done aswell. Yes usyk is giving up some strength but he doesnt have to face 250+ pounders either...