Is Loma the most overrated boxer of this generation?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Jul 13, 2018.


Do you agree with this thread?

  1. Yes. I'm reasonable and unbiased.

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  2. No I'm a Loma fan! How dare you criticize him.

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  3. **** off Ellerbe

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  1. YearZero

    YearZero Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury has to be the most overrated.
     
  2. WalcottsBentFace

    WalcottsBentFace Member banned Full Member

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    Definitely the 2nd option. Lol I like it though. When you see that little POS triggered and bitter it’s always good times and the way things should be. :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    At large, Loma is just now being appreciated for the talent he is.

    In fact, he's been underrated. And all it takes is the lead in to the Rigo fight to prove it. A fight he was called a ducker for until it was made (much like Walters).

    Why did so many knowledgeable boxing people and insiders push for the fight and predict either a Rigo win or tough fight? And those that did pick a Loma win, primarily cite size as the factor? Not talent, skill, a poor styles matchup for Rigo, or ring IQ. Boxing people talked as though Rigo had those advantages. It's because they were shortchanging Lomachenko.

    So, many boxing people didn't even pick Loma to convincingly (or at all) defeat a win E rates as a three.

    I saw no predictions that Loma would clown Rigo into quitting with the old master being reduced to a sparring partner who couldnt land a single meaningful shot. If anyone can dig one up from a boxing person, id love to see it. Gamboa, Khan, and Brook could land before they fell before their bigger foes.

    I'm on record that I considered Rigo winning four rounds to be as good as a Loma loss, but even I thought he'd land SOMETHING.
     
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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Still, I respect the effort put into it, ellerbe :beer-toast1:
     
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  5. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah I second that. He's an excellent driver..
     
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  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Gets his panties at Walmart
     
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  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I find Lomo as the real deal and I always give credit for multi weight belt winners just like I did AB back in the day
     
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  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma is a great talent, fact.
    The fighter is not as over rated as his resume is, if that makes the sense I feel it makes
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No one is actually addressing any of my points. Just ad hominem attacks. I guess that just shows there isn't an argument against what I've said.

    Anyways I've added a third option "**** off Ellerbe" for shits and giggles.
     
  11. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay I will say this Loma is the truth I love his style of boxing, hit and don’t get hit that’s boxing , I do feel that he and Bud are the 2 best fighters on the planet at this time and people can take this for what it is but they will always be linked , if they ever fight I can leave this planet happy.
     
  12. Cafe

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    Because you're the type of dude who's impossible to argue, you never concede positions even when it's obvious you're wrong. E.g. the Walters momentum/layoff thing is obviously a very weak point you made and you know he got robbed by Sosa, you didn't budge on that at all.

    Also your argument is not well constructed in the first place. You start with a very generalized conjecture that's not defined in any meaningful manner, what is overrated? And how should he be rated? You said he's one of the best boxers yourself, so you rate him highly, what is it we're arguing for here. How should he be rated then?

    All you did was go over his opposition and very crudely dissected it, something you can do with ANY fighter and has been done before. Not only that this is all OPINION based anyway, so if you stand strongly by it, well what can one do to change your or my mind about it? Nothing.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How is it weak? It's not weak at all. Basically by your logic anything you disagree with = weak. Momentum is extremely important in boxing. You have to be delusional to think otherwise. It's not a weak argument at all. Nice try though Cafe.

    Also I said he's one of the best boxers in this era. This era isn't exactly the strongest boxing era. I'm saying he's overrated especially when it comes to h2h fantasy match ups.
     
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  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i would pay $150 for that ppv, cause i know i couldnt afford floor seats to that spectacle. the top half of p4p list all in one show.... aaaah, i just came.
     
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  15. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    The whole fantasy match up thing between modern fighters and past greats should really be more of fun speculation rather than any serious talk. I don't personally engage in it too much and the discussions should be taken with a pinch of salt.

    If someone said he's GREATER than say Floyd or Duran or Pac, then we have a problem.