Pacquiao TKOs Danny, Beats Thurman, Loses To Porter, Gets KO'd By Spence And Craw...

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  1. FrankinDallas

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    Manny:

    Beats Garcia, Thurman.
    Loses (badly) to Spence, Crawford.
    Porter....toss up.

    Garcia would be easiest to defeat. Slow, yes takes a good punch, but will look like he's standing in molasses vs Pac. Thurman hasn't fought in years...who knows how he will be in the ring when he returns sometime after Game of Thrones ends on HBO.
     
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  2. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you really can’t see the man is shot there is nothing anyone can say to change your mind , a tip when a pro fighter keeps getting hit wth the same punch over and over = shot.
     
  3. dangerousity

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    Do you know how many times a fighter has been declared shot, then prime again or at least fine, then shot again, heck people have been saying pac was past his best since 130lbs. Soon as someone has a bad performance, underperforms, they’re shot.

    And he may very well be shot (Matthysee) but I prefer evidence. Let him lose to a fighter not the caliber of Pac and then I’ll call him shot.

    It’s like when Pac beat ODLH, everyone declared oDLH must have been so shot despite taking Floyd to an split decision just the year before that he would lose to any top 10 WW. Then he goes on top stop Hatton and Cotto.

    I personally think that Matthysee was just overwhelmed by PACs power and speed, and this time Pac isn’t fighting a guy a couple of weight classes above him naturally.

    Everyone said Morales was shot when Pac stopped him. Then morales comes back years later, 3 weight classes above his best weight to give Maidana and Danny Garcia a hell of a fight. If he was shot in the Pac fight, what was he in those fights? Super super shot where he arguably beat them?
     
  4. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i have little doubt, that same poster had cotto going from shot to prime as soon as floyd signed to fight him, its like theyre programmed with faulty software.
     
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  5. Staminakills

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    Lol, not sure if you realize this but this video has ever single"hug" initiated by fmj (something every fighter users when it's called for) and still all his hugging added up is a total of 3 mins, that's one round..

    What about the 11 remaining rounds of time that was used to win or lose that match
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you understand boxing?

    3min is a long ass time for hugs. That’s like saying, I compiled all the right hands landed by fighter B and it only amounted to 3min total. Do you know how many right hands that is?

    If your gauging each other for 10 seconds, jabbing and feinting each other for another 20, and then u close in to throw some punches but the other person bends below the belt so u can’t hit them, and then initiates the hug, you can’t do anything. They’re basically cheating cos it’s against the rules.

    It’s the same problem Tyson had when people started grabbing him, can’t fight them from the outside, and then he gets hugged on the inside.
     
  7. Staminakills

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    DSG would be very very dangerous for pac and he would present far and away more than a punchers chance. Not sure pac could hurt dg while we know he could easily hurt pac.

    Pick em fight that I'd heavily lean towards DSG at this point
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We know that dsg can hurt pac but we’re not sure if pac can hurt dsg? Lmao, based on what. Morales and Mathysse hurt dsg ffs. And who has hurt pac to the head? Not Rios, oDLH, lottery, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito or Matthysee.

    All you have is a perfectly timed punch as he’s lunging in wrecklessly to a guy on angels juice who he’s fought 4 times who happens to be one of the best counterpunchers of his generation. Such a specific criteria to make that happen and even JMM didn’t think he could replicate that hence why he turned down a 100mil fight.

    Suddenly everyone with a punch can do that.
     
  9. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wrong.
     
  10. dougemerypm

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    Whether he was chasing a "shot" fighter or not Matthysee showed NO foot movement last night. The good fighter in the division, with the exception of Garcia, will not stand directly in front of Pac and NONE would be knocked down by a jab. I still saw what Horn was able to do to Pac and what Crawford did to Horn. This is NOT vintage Pac and no one beats Father Time
     
  11. bandeedo

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    fair enough, just going by what ive recently seen and my ability to put 2 and 2 together.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    Weren't you trolls saying Pac would get ko'd by Lucas before the fight. Instead giving Pac his due respect you now claim Lucas was shot to bits. Sounds par for this forum.
     
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  13. ATG22

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    I’m not going to overrate last night but Pac looked really good. We know Matthysse was ripe for the picking, but Manny still looked fast and must’ve been strong not really needing to cut.

    I think Spence would be his toughest challenge, followed by Thurman.

    Crawford? I don’t think he’s nearly as comfortable against super fast guys (was losing rounds to Gamboa). I think Pacquiao is a lot more durable than people give him credit for. Other than that insane punch that slept him (and to a lesser extent, the first KD earlier in that fight), when was he hurt? Gamboa’s chinny, Manny is not.

    Would probably stop Garcia. I think Porter would be a fun fight, but Manny may be too fast, Porter too wild, Pac UD.
     
  14. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just a boxing fan that loves the sweet science.
     
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  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i can find a way to fit that together. im more a fan of the warrior spirit, i just like it showcased at the highest skill levels.