Marciano VS the 2 Lennox Lewis conquerors

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano took a count against Moore there was nothing flash about it. Im saying the punches that stopped Lewis were harder than the punch that Moore landed to drop Marciano and that I believe Moore's punch would not have dropped Lewis. Lewis faced a large assortment of big hitters, Rocky did not.
     
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  2. janitor

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    An ounce of delivery, is worth more than a pound of power!

    Archie Moore was a more dangerous puncher than Rahman.
     
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  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    not even close sorry...
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Harder doesn't mean jack sh1t!

    Lewis fought a lot of big limited punchers, and a few good ones.

    The two men who knocked him out with a single punch, were both decent , but unexceptional punchers!
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So who apart from Lewis, did this monster stop?
     
  6. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Who did shavers stop apart from a shot norton? And who did hit harder shavers or moore?
    Your tactic or argument of who did stop "better names " is archaic. Archie moore was not even a hw so simply the fact of comparing him with rahman at punchers h2h at hw is simply laughable .
     
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  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You can barely count to 2 before Marciano is up on his feet against Moore. What’s this BS about their being a count?

    I find it quite amusing how often you critisise Marciano getting floored by Archie Moore’s Sunday punch for a 1-2 count before he was up and swinging back seconds later. Moore is the all time knockout king, ranked number 4 in rings top 100 greatest punchers of all time, and carried his power up to heavyweight with 19 knockouts against the 23 men he fought who weighed 200lb or more.

    You certainly don’t apply that same criticisms to other 185lb fighters in the 20s who were knocked out cold or buzzed by much lighter punchers than Moore.

    For the record,

    I pick Rahman and McCall to beat Marciano but the rock had an iron chin. Goldman said he never saw Marciano take a step backwards in the ring from a punch. I think at 185lb, he’d be at too much of a size disadvantage against McCall and Rahman.
     
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  8. mcvey

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    How many big punchers did Rocky meet?

    To answer a previous inaccuracy by A N Other.Marciano was down for a count of 4 against Moore
    It can clearly be heard on the film as it was when I first bought and watched the fight in1966.
    Here it is.

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    "Marciano is bulling his way in-what else does he ever do?When Moore seems to magnetize his jaw into jusrt the right position and sinks his right intromit. AND MARCIANO IS DOWN
    He's hurt and dazed and for a strange second as he gets up at the count of four he seems to forget that he's in a fight.Moore triggers another right to the jaw.I've never seen Marciano look in worse trouble.Moore jabs his man at will and blood comes from Marciano's nose and Marciano curls his tongue at it.Marciano clubs clumsily at the body and gets hit and hurt with a right uppercut.He has lost the round by the length of Broadway."
    Peter Wilson Ringside working press.

    I'd also like the names of these 19 heavyweights that Moore ko'd who weighed over 200lbs ? I count definites
    Lavorante
    Parker
    Baker
    Davidson
    I didnt include the 2 wrestlers.lol
    Perusing Moore's heavyweight stoppage victims we have the following among them :
    George Abinet 6-14-1
    Sterling Davis 0-0-0
    Julio Neves 20-14-1
    Ralph Hooker 18-21-1
    Sonny Andrews14-11-1
    George Parmentier 17-11-4
    Rinaldo Ansaloni 2-0-0
    Al Spaulding 25-23-1
    Sonny Andrews [again]12-7-0
    Leonard Dugan 5-0-0
    Toxie Hall 8-3-2 [Marciano's sometime sparring partner]
    Alfredo Lagay 39-10-12
    Americo Capitanelli 3-21-3
    Rafael Miranda 10-6-2
    Victor Carbajal 1-1-1
    Vicente Quiroz 3-1-2 [he turned it in]
    The two wrestlers?
    Mike Dibiase 0-0-0
    Roy Shire 0-0-0
    That's 18 heavyweight stoppage victories Moore achieved that I would expect Lamar Clark to manage!
    Now its time for my breakfast.I think I'll have ham and eggs or maybe a can of tomatoes.lol



    Some one is talking out of their arse and it isn't me.
     
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  9. Fergy

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    If Marciano had being tagged like that against McCall or Rahman ,sorry but he'd have being in a word of danger .He'd have being down longer than 4 Second s Imo .
     
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  10. HerolGee

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    rocky stops rammy late and Olly he takes on points.
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Rahman would overpower marciano like i would with a 15 years old kid.marciano was.185 pounds and do you know what? He is not superman. He was a small,slow,cement foot brawler he would not have stylistical advantage neither... Trading against a guy who was much bigger,much stronger,hits harder and was 55 pounds heavier is not a good plan
     
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  12. HerolGee

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    so, rocky marciano is a 15 year old kid to you.

    This forum doesnt hide extreme arrogance.

    WHy dont you go eat 200lbs of pies, then you'll be able to beat Anthony Joshua.
     
  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Maybe you did not understand what i meant or i wrote it bad?
     
  14. HerolGee

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    naa its just a really really bad simile.
     
  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    No.. I think that rahman would handle him that easy physically. Hassim was a powerlifter he moved the 245 pounds of lewis like a rag doll in the interview.the 185 pounds of marciano would be like handling a kid
     
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