Povetkin Doesn't Stand A Chance Against AJ - Send A Message And Boycott This Farce

yea yea sure. I remember when Wlad was on top of the game, it was 2003.. Jim Lampley was creaming his pants about Klitschko, everyone was talking about him facing Lennox Lewis next, just how everyone wants Joshua to face Wilder... but Klitschko's manager thought they should take another fight... hahah remember that??? and as soon as the Corrie Sanders fight was announced, all the fans became enraged, saying WTF? Why is he fighting a 37 year old Golfer who's retired?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Everyone was saying this fight was a farce!! coincidentally Klitschko was 27 years old like Joshua is today ahahahahah... ANyways Wlad didn't train for the fight, he was on cloud 9 from all the attention he was getting, sponsorship with HUGO BOSS, FILA, Just like Joshua with Under Armour.... And then guess what happened??? well, I don't know how old u r, but you can google that fight and see what happened with Wlad!!

 

well if he really wants to try all he has to do is sign the contract.

 

I think Povetkin will be in severe trouble, in his last fight he looked very stationary and if **** tier David Price can land right hands on him so can AJ. I expect AJ to close the fight before round 6.

 

I must have missed Joshua ducking Ortiz, when did he drop/vacate his belt to avoid him? Because I honestly can't remember AJ vacating to avoid Ortiz, I must have memory loss.

Right so Tyson for example didn't go overseas until his 7th defence because it was more lucrative for him to stay in the US, exactly the same can be said for Joshua, fan base, sponsorship, PPV's.. it's all better for AJ in the UK.

Right now the UK is where the money is, especially with Hearn and the DAZN deal, right now the UK is the Mecca of boxing.

It really is, take away Canelo (who is Mexican) and you tell me a bigger star in boxing in the US (PPV's, numbers and all that) than Joshua?

And yes 21 fights is important, very important, I would understand if AJ had 30+ fights and had defended 10+ times and was insisting on not going abroad but that just isn't the case, he has 3 (plus the IBO) out of the 4 main belts, so he calls the shots, he is the champion.

Challengers should challenge, British fighters have had to travel in the past because they were the so called "B-Side", they wasn't the draw, they wasn't the money and British boxers and fans accepted it.

Well in this case AJ is the draw, the money and the champion and regarded as Number 1 so Wilder will have to travel.

It amazes me how the goal posts move when it comes to US fighters, when they hold all the cards it's non negotiable but when a British does then it's still down to the British fighter to make sacrifices.

Personally I don't believe either side, they have both stretched the truth, both have spun, both have been tricky.

But if the 50 million was real then that's what? 2-3 times AJ's best purse?

Well the 15 million offered to Wilder was 10-15 times his biggest purse so who really turned down the better offer for them personally?

AJ will earn 50 million is maybe 3 fights? Wilder will earn 15 million in what? around 8-10 fights..

So Wilder needs to move, Wilder needs to accept he is basically the challenger, Wilder needs to make the sacrifices.

Joshua has had unification fights (only had 21 fights).. how many unification fights has Wilder had in 40 fights YES 40 FIGHTS ? How much work has he actually done?

Wilder hasn't done enough, hasn't sacrificed enough, he has just shouted, screamed and whined like a little female dog about negotiations breaking down, he has embarrassed himself.

Now he is fighting Breazeale for a couple of million at most, brilliant business move, superb, a truly amazing decision.. afterwards probably a rematch with 98 year old Ortiz for a couple of million.

AJ will fight Povetkin and assuming he wins, maybe Whyte is a huge domestic fight, maybe even Fury in a monster PPV fight.. plenty of money, plenty of interest.

Joshua doesn't need Wilder to earn huge money but Wilder needs AJ to earn huge money so who should be making the moves and sacrificing?

 

Yeah, that claim has stumped me.

I don't remember the Ortiz mandatory being called, he might have been number 1 but that isn't the same as a mandatory actually being called.

Yeah, that's how I remember it, Ortiz had two fights with Hearn, was on the verge of signing for AJ and went and signed with Haymon.

I can't see that as a duck, I don't know how anybody can call that a duck, you sign for Wilder and then get named mandatory for AJ afterwards and apparently it's AJ's fault the fight didn't happen.

I'm all for slaughtering fighters who duck but that's a seriously long stretch of the truth.

 

It's all relative.

Let's say the 50 million was legit, it may well have been, probably was.. AJ will earn that in 2-3 fights depending who he fights.

The 15 million offered to Wilder, Wilder will have to fight probably 8-10 times to earn that, maybe less if he fought a Fury or even a Whyte (who he refused to fight for 5-6 million).



Hmmm good question, Did Wilder duck Whyte then?

He was offered a career high payday and turned it down, refused to travel because he was the champion.. a very clear career high payday and then refused to travel because he said he was the champion.

Sounds rather similar to what your saying about AJ, wouldn't you agree?

 

If you think this fight is a joke, surely you would have come to the same conclusion if Joshua was to fight Ortiz?

I mean, they’re of a similar age, and both have shady pasts with peds. The one thing that separates them is that Povetkin is better by all accounts.

 

OP's previous strategy of predicting a win for Joshua opponents has failed miserably https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/will-you-rejoice-when-parker-slays-joshua.599543/
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...at-much-of-a-chance-against-klitschko.575112/
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/anthony-joshua-is-easy-meat-for-klitschko-this-is-why.578631/
, so he's now trying this new tactic of rubbishing the opposition so that he can discredit Joshua whatever the outcome. Predictable and desperate nonsense, conveniently overlooking the fact Povetkin is a mandatory challenger and consensus top 5 heavyweight.

As for the Wilder situation, here's a reminder of the OP's views on Deontay himself...

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...d-for-cowardice-and-excessive-ducking.589343/

Cheers

 

Clearly he has no agenda or bias..

 

Povetkin will KO Joshua, some handpicked bum will KO Wilder. They'll both be crying that they didn't make the fight soon enough.

 

It just shows the level Joshua is at when a quality opponent like Povetkin is expected to do no better than a guy like Dave Allen.

Povetkin would be the best opponent on Wilders record and if he was to fight him it would be a huge step-up in class with many likely predicting Pov to win by brutal knockout.

But Joshua vs Povetkin is such a mismatch it doesn't even deserve any air time according to this thread. All this thread proves is how great Anthony Joshua is.

 

This. A skilled vet like Povetkin, who also has power has a good chance. Just like Povetkin's age can work against him Joshua's inexperience can and has worked against Joshua as well. Joshua doesn't exactly have a great jab or uppercut and his defense has a lot of holes. Takam exposed that Joshua's punches are very wide and he tends to leave his body wide open, but Takam lacked the power to make Joshua pay for it. If Joshua leaves his body exposed like that against Povetkin and drops in hands in Povetkin's range like he was constantly doing against Takam and Parker its going to be a very long night for Joshua.

 

I don't think I've ever seen someone who is surely at worst top 5 in a division given such little chance against a fighter who has at times looked as vulnerable as AJ has.

 

Yep being number 1 isn't the same as being mandatory, hence why when Ortiz was the top ranked WBA heavy he was ordered to fight an eliminator with Ustinov for the mandatory spot but ducked out of that fight both times. He could have been the confirmed WBA mandatory a whole year sooner but clearly didn't want it, he's cherry picked his way to a title shot just like Wilder.

People need to remember Ortiz has been a pro for 8 years. People criticised Wilder for his slow progress and not stepping up but Ortiz too just like Wilder wasted many years of his prime beating up journeymen and refusing to step up in class. Took Ortiz almost 6 years before fighting a contender in Jennings and only did so against one coming off a loss who isn't a puncher and then 8 years before his first title shot.

People talk about Ortiz being avoided but conveniently forget he's not been chasing hard fights himself and ducked out of mandated fights when it suited him too.