Team Lomachenko: Manny Pacquiao Fight Happens ONLY @ 135 — NO CATCHWEIGHT.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tomato(e) Can, Jul 16, 2018.


  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never said he had to, but I'm not going to pretend he didn't turn down the work, so let's not make him more than he's telling you he is. You're confusing haglers atg standing at mw, with the overall.
     
  2. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if anything, he's accepted the work. I'm not confusing anything, you said ATG are expected to move through the weight
     
  3. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not exactly in Mikey's 13 fights, right?
     
  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pansy? :eek:

    You don't have to give me your version of what happened slick. And as I said, just because one fighter made a mistake w/ moving down in weight, doesn't mean anyone else is obligated to do the same.

    Here's where you go on full on overthink mode. It wasn't just ONE fight that made Pac a star. He wasn't an unknown them BOOM instant star because he beat ODLH. Manny had gained a following for his destruction of MAB and his two fights against Morales. Gained more when he had his action packed fights w/ JMM. And....boxing STILL had a major face of the sport in ODLH. This isn't the same boxing world as it was then. Surely someone of your astute knowledge has picked up on where boxing is today, compared to even just a decade ago.

    Loma is gaining his own following as well. But he's doing it differently than anyone else. BTW, did Jeff Horn become the new Manny Pacquiao because he beat Manny? Did Tim Bradley become the a huge PPV star as well, since he got a dubious win? And BTW, how did beating ODLH work for Shane Mosley. Made him a household name, right? Noooope. It's not a guarantee that you will be the next PPV draw just because you beat one. That's just naive to think.

    So....Loma may never be as big as manny or Oscar. And VERY few will. But that doesn't mean they cannot or will not be stars. Got that...pansy? :p
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes I do. Easter Jr fights dumb and doesn't use his length. Mikey will give him a beating.
     
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  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea you are and with the way you debate bringing up robberies. You are a tool for using robberies to try and make a point. Oh and a doper who had his face become a bookend around BALCO? GFTO... As wrote in my post, you have to beat the outgoing PPV star cleanly and convincingly to take over.
     
  7. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Poor bumlachenko! He knows grandpa Pac will put him on a wheelchair
     
  8. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What weight does Lomachenko walk around at? Low 140's. Pacquiao maybe walks around 150. Not a big miss-match and Pac is 10 years older so there shouldn't be a problem for Lomachenko agreeing to the fight at 140. You want legacy, a challenge, and a good payday, then this is it. Don't try to drag Pac to 135.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac has to eat in excess to get to 147 so his walk around weight is obviously lower. In reality their fight night weights could be very close since Lomo enters the ring at 138lbs (vs Rigo). Regardless of the cw, Pac often weighs around 146lbs fight night. Thus the reality is with a cw, they will be very close in weight come fight night.
     
  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF are you even talking about now? Bringing up robberies to make a point? Which one, Horn? Even if it was a robbery (Which I agree with, had Pac narrowly winning), according to your logic, it should have at LEAST bumped up Horn's drawing power. Think Casuals give two damns about robberies? Not hardly.

    OK...now you say has to be done CLEANLY to be a new PPV star. Really? Going to keep amending that idea until you have something no one can retort? :duh

    Shane defeated Oscar YEARS before the while Balco thing broke out. But I guess...EVERYONE was already in the know about his clear/cream usage. Yeah, ALL the casuals already knew about it. OK....DERRRR.... o_O

    And like I said...beating a PPV star cleanly or convincingly IS NOT a guarantee of anything FFS. The fact that needs to be explained to a 'smart boxing fan' is beyond rational.

    I guess this highly smart boxing fan never took in to consideration Pac was rehydrating to about 140 even when he was just a FW. Just accept not every one has the same ability to move.

    And lastly...AGAIN....just because Oscar moved down to give Pac a shot means no way is PAc obligated to do that to anyone. What kind of kindergarten logic is that?
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No **** he's not obligated. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Why even enter the thread???

    And on the point that there's no guarantee, no **** sherlock. Someone go ask PBF and Pac whether they should have taken those fights? Was it worth it for them? WTF is this, stupid central?
     
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  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you mental or something? We're just talking about this. If you get this upset over a little discussion, yo should take a break.

    But great way to avoid any reason to provide a rational reply. Excellent way to never learn a thing...
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the fool who entered the thread with those points numbnuts.

    #1 Lomo doesn't have to agree to it. #2 no guarantee he will become a PPV star afterwards.

    #1 = no **** sherlock.
    #2 = again no **** sherlock.
     
  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good lord.... chill out child. You were trying to act as if this was the only way to become a PPV star, that a fight w/ Pac is his only hope. And that Loma is what...scared to fight Pac at a CW now?

    Like I said, Pac and Loma are simply on two different paths, and separated by what is just a tad too much. Yeah, that's COMPLETELY asinine to think.

    You have the mentality of a child, and temperament it seems.

    But good job clearly and concisely refuting my 'numbnut' posts with your anger filled rants.
     
  15. Work the body

    Work the body Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can you imagine if PAC went down to 135 and beat Loma....