Hearn is a total flop. The DAZN WBSS Deal massively outshined his

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Poor AJ looks like he wants to cry lol.

Hearn has lost him all that showtime/HBO money for what? Those networks would have written AJ a blank cheque, but he "stayed loyal", did as he was told and is fighting for a company with zero subscribers. By the time DAZN gets off the ground and can pay AJ what Showtime/HBO would have, he's gonna be retired.

 

Oh **** off you *****. I am having a conversation. I am not defending DAZN. I don't care about it because it's not available to me.

When have i ever stated that he deliver on his promise or delivered something great? Do i think he can deliver his promise? Yes, but i would not bet on it.
He went after Broner and the lot and he failed. Just look at Broner on social media. Like i said: "It's harder than he thought". He clearly needed more than just money. (He has to prove himself and DAZN or come up with some other clever move)
Roc Nation had similar issues.

Based on what? How the **** do you know that it´s not the deal? You have inside sources?

Okay? What are the numbers? Because i for sure as **** dont know. I do know that SHO and HBO are constantly cutting their boxing budgets. And i am certain that DAZN's current expenditure wont be a large sum.
How can you call out it as a lie when none of us have any numbers to back it up?

I can only say this about Broner but he did offer Broner a **** ton of cash. And we know for certain that he was talking to Garcia and the Charlos. He even made an offer to Wilder.
Where is the lie in that?

Il give you that one. It doesn't look like he will sign any really big names anytime soon.

Same as above.

Well... thats a hard one. We don't know what the future holds but when has anyone had major control over U.S. boxing? Don King? (I doubt he takes over)

He can stack cards easily if he signs more fighters or signs deals with other promoters. Like he said, he doesn't have to sign a fighter for them to appear on DAZN.
The Chicago card is stacked. (1 down 15 to go Good luck to Eddie)

PBC had all the fighters and all the TV, yet they failed. DAZN has not started yet, you can't really call it a flop. (I would worry if they don't start announcing more fighter soon)

 

Boxing has been TAKEN OVER

The Liberal Agenda has been SMASHED

 

He'll regret turning his back on Showtime. He has the authority to override Hearn's Descions on his Tv Rights and he's being used as a model for DAZN.

 

Thats every ****ing promoter! Except he is not putting on 60+USD PPV's with little value. (He has the 9.99USD subscription. And no, i would actually rather have boxing on free TV)

Wtf? Again! How the **** am i defending anything? I am having a ****ing conversation about the topic. Jesus ****ing Christ!
Yea, he thought he would get the big names because he had the money. Thats why he made the big promises. He ****ed up. I agree with that part! How is that me defending him!?!?!

But what i don't agree with is that the whole thing is a flop and Eddie has failed. This thing hasn´t even started yet.

I don't know if Eddie has talked about it but that was public knowledge from day one. If everything goes according to plan, it would be a 8 year deal worth up to 1 billion. Maybe it will be worth more, maybe less. Maybe they last one year or maybe it will be more than 8 years.

Of course he signed Joshua over to DAZN. And why does Wilder stay with SHO? Why does Wilder have the say on which network the fight happens on? He does not have a deal with SHO. His handlers have a working relationship with them.
And btw, Eddie said DAZN wold be willing to work with other networks. Lets wait and see.

Matchroom has 19 events scheduled this year. They are doing fine. Eddie did fine without Joshua and he will do fine after him.
And AJ loosing to Wilder would kill AJs career? Are you kidding me?

 

Really? The biggest? Not Don King, or Floyd or any of the ABC's heads?
And exposed how? He made a promise that he could not keep. He promised to sign big names and he failed.
And whom exactly did he double cross?

Big Baby is not a Matchroom guy. He has his own company and is also signed to Salita Promotions. Look it up on youtube, Miller himself talks about it in several interviews.

Yes! Lets kill everyone who thinks its a good idea to put on big fight cards for cheap! That was the initial idea, big names, big cards, great events. How dare he attempt such a thing!

 

I think exposed is the wrong word there. He shot for the moon but failed, miserably so.

Sucks about the ticket thing. But i would not call everyone matchroom sheep. People think there is some massive Matchroom fanboy community out there but thats far from the truth.
Eddie just sells the media his "facts".

This happens more often then one would like to admit. This is a common practice in boxing.

There was never a promise made. Miller himself has said that. Yes, Eddie did line Miller up but no actual guarantees were made.
This is why Miller lashed out and stated he would not be dragged along, and why he was looking to do his own thing.(whatever the f that means)

He is a boxing promoter just like every other. As long as he delivers good fights and takes care of his fighters, i dont care.

You are the one calling death to the man

The UK PPV prices are cheap, relatively speaking that is. And most of his cards are stacked with local talent. Should some of the fights have been on PPV? Hell no!
Whose career did he derail and whose earnings did he steal?
And Hearn has put on a lot of great fights for the U.K. fans. He has put on duds and he has put on great nights. (as does any other promoter)
And again, the call for his death?

He turned down the deal because he did not believe it and because of DAZN.

Where is the 100mil coming from? Where is the 50mil coming from? Just exactly how could they generate such money?
And the "house slave" was rather uncalled for.

Death to Hearn!
Its hard reading your comments when it's just one derogatory term after another. He signed a supposedly big money deal with DAZN and he has had a ton of success in the U.K. Of course he thinks he can do well in the U.S.
For you to take it as a sign of disrespect is ridiculous.
Finkel himself is to blame for a ton **** talking. It's been nothing but smack from Wilder´s team since day one.

How could you have such blinded hatred for a man who has effected you life in no direct way whatsoever?
Its borderline pathetic.

Lets not forget all the years Wilder ducked and dodged the entire division only to open his mouth when Joshua started making waves. Lets not forget how Haymon has his guys fight once a year and mostly BS opposition.
PBC ****ed boxing fans over. Look at all the careers they have stagnated.

 

They are launching with the biggest name in world boxing and that's somehow a failure.... Ok.

 

I don't judge a business on its first few weeks.

Why wouldn't DAZN be looking to at WBSS . DAZN are looking for content. Good content drives subscriptions. That was plain from day 1.

DAZN is not a boxing subscription service. It's a sports subscription service.

Hearn was ridiculed in the UK at the start. You wanna judge his US operation then give it time rather than somehow deem it a failure before its even started.

 

No he shot himself in the foot by making arrogant statements and arrogantly overlooking how hard it would be to crack America.

He could have gone about things more tactfully and with more humility but this guy can't help himself. He had to make grandiose statements whilst undermining his competitors.

Let me ask you do you live in the uk? Because if you do, then you will see firsthand how many braindead morons who parrot word for word every single god damn thing they hear from Eddie, or from the television for that matter and present it as facts.

Of course there is no denying that. However Eddie presents himself as someone who is for the people, who does his work for his fighters and distances himself from other promoters.

This is why I don't have too much of a grudge towards other slimy promoters like Don King, Frank Warren etc. They don't disguise themselves to be anything other than double dealing con artists who are out to leech off their fighters.

Eddie has this holier than thou, I'm better than everyone else and'' I do things the right way attitude'' or ''I'm for the fans, look how chummy I am with the average joe, Kugan Cassius''

I see through all this garbage and can patently see that he is nothing more than an elitist scumbag who will go to any lengths to get that last dollar.

And we have stupid fools on here cheerleading for his corrupt dealings sabotaging the integrity of the sport, whilst messing fighters around and they do it because it suits their agenda so long as they can see that their favorite fighter can avoid a threat.

Eddie is on Tape slithering lies to Millerr, shaking his hand hand reassuring him that if he gets past Duhaupas, he will have done more than enough to earn a fight with AJ.

He's not delivering good fights, outside of the AJ show, what other great events or big fights has he made that's been memorable.

Klitschko vs AJ was his biggest success story with Brook vs Spence , Whyte vs Chisora, as decent billings. Who else? The rest of his cards are flops, stinkers. Remember Bellew vs Cleverly, that he hyped up and charged full ppv? One of the worst shows to ever air.

. I said he better be mindful that he doesn't get clipped as that is what happens to Big time Charlies in the states who who throw their weight around and can't keep their mouths shut.

The big players within boxing, didn't take too kindly to the disrespectful statements Eddie was coming out with stating about how he will do what he likes in America. You really think this would have gone unnoticed by mafia men and kingpin bosses who run the underbelly of boxing? You think they don't pay attention to the mess this clown is spewing and not aware of what he's trying to do?

Make no mistake, It only takes one phone call to end this devil.

How many of those fights are 50/50 on the cards? Not many at all. It's a night out bread and circus show for the commoners, filled with feel and look good fights. Meaning fights where the main local talent is matched against a hopeless bum, so they can look good.

It's garbage. AJ is carrying the uk boxing scene by himself, putting up to 90,000 bums on seats and his top purse is 20 million. You think that's right?

In America the fighters today are merely filling out 20-30,000 arenas and earning thrice that amount.

He believed it all right. He had no reason not to. He just had other plans, like you said the DAZN, plus the intention to milk AJ dry over the long term than risk him against Wilder who most likely would brutally knock out him and remove the untouchable aura and brand gimmick surround Joshua, meaning his value diminishes.

Al Haymon along with investors such as the television networks, and the casano's in last vegas. Wilder's people paid Manny near 140 million dollars. Floyd 300 million, and you are asking where the money is going to come from? Please I respect, you because you have at least come to your own opinion in regards to other matters, but this is a ridiculous precedent to start questioning the biggest players, who've headlined the biggest sporting events in the history of the boxing.

This is another prime example on how Hearn has managed to distort people's perceptions by someohow managing to convince the majority that individuals such as Al Haymon and co would have difficulty raising 100 million!

Let that point sink in.

Listen to me, there is no probably having ambition and believing you can be a success. The problem comes when you dismiss everyone else and believe you are better than you competition without doing anything of merit in comparative terms to their success.

If I have a small electronics business and it is doing well in a local area. My ambition is to make it a global success, I do not then claim that I will conquer the electronic world and make claims that my small business which has flourished locally is the envy of the likes of Bill Gates, Sony and Apple and I will step over them.

I would rightly be ridiculed and my fiercest competitors would be doing everything in their power to find ways to take me out of the game before I could make any headway.

I love boxing, and use to enjoy British boxing, but I can no longer stomach much of the sport due to the disgusting actions of what Eddie Hearn has done to the sport and the sycophants who blindly support him . He's dumbed down and manipulated boxing fans with nothing but lies and trickery.

No 2) I hate liars and false characters who pull the wool over over others and destroy the character of fighters who's only desire is to get fights made and be paid true to their value.

No 3) I hate super proud demons who can't keep their story straight when informing their audience of events.

I can't overlook seeing a promotor verbally degrade a fighter's character, racially and politically and systematically rob them of their rightful earnings and be ok with it. I mentioned AJ being a good house slave, because he is content with being robbed and ruled over by Eddie so long as he receives a few nice perks. Did you know Hearn whipped his back (metaphorically speaking of coudse) for that famous interview where he proposed that if Wilder offered 50 million he'd accept the next day.

Joshua can't say or do anything without Hearn's approval and Joshua loves it because he thinks getting better cloths, cars and shelter than other fighters in his position is worth selling out for. Meanwhile Wilder is demonized for trying to work out a deal that would see both fighters equally rewarded for one of the biggest fights of this era.

Joshua is happy to see Wilder get shafted for 12-15 million for a fight that is worth over 100 million and then some.

Eddie has been whispering poison in his ear, telling him he's better off rejecting a guaranteed 50 million in one fight, so he can make the same over a longer period fighting lesser men just so Eddie wouldn't lose his promotional percentage fee that he would receive if they fight were to be staged in the uk

This is what devils do. They pretend to be your friends, and looking out for your best interests, but really they are only out for themselves with the sole intention to deceive and this is why they should be shown no mercy

 

Well, he didn't undermine anyone. But i otherwise agree. He had his own success and now he had lots of money. So he thought it was a lock that he would easily get the talent.
Al Haymon had the money and he easily signed over 100 guys. But Al had long relationships with a lot of guys(fighters, promoters, managers and so on).
Eddie too has those relationships but over in the U.K. There he signs top level guys on a regular basis. But that doesn't translate over to the U.S. market.

No i dont but Matchroom has an exclusive deal with Sky Sports til 2021. And Sky Sports is a massive entity who knows how to advertise and promote.

Dont know enough about Eddie to comment about that but so far he has been really good for his fighters.

Okay, thats kinda odd. So you are fine with them being cons? But i get your point non the less.

He definitely acts very professional and has a stick up his ass. But i feel it's way better that De La Hoya or DiBella going bat**** crazy and shitting on others in the industry.
Lets not forget the "Cold War" we had to endure.

He should do so(as long as he doesn't go crazy with the PPV's, which he sadly has done at times). He is a promoter, he has to generate money so his fighters can get paid.

This seems like a stab at the Wilder fight. The whole thing is BS and from both sides. Non stop social media outrage... ****. I dont even want to talk about this fight anymore. I am so sick of it. Both sides are pieces of **** in my eyes.

Miller himself said that no actual promises were made.

I think you are looking too much for elite level fights, which promoters rarely deliver. And thus you are for some reason holding Eddie to a higher standard than everyone else.

Great events are actually rare. Few promoters have enough superstars to constantly pump out huge events.
Hearn is more of a mid level guy. The Jacobs cards, Linares x3, Monte Carlo series... cards like that are constant.
But the bigger events would be the Joshua fights, Whyte-Parker, Brook-Golovkin, Bellew-Haye, Froch-Groves/Kessler/Bute. (They promote a lot of evens, i can't bother to look through them all to remember what other events they did)
And Hearn delivers good fights. Just look at Ryan Brunett or Anthony Crolla or Ricky Burns. Every promoter has good fights and bad fights. Some are dull nights were others are one for the memory.
It takes multiple entities for a network to have one great nigh after another.



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It's 2018 In what world do you live where people get taken out like that?

What? Who are these underground mafia bosses? What year is this?

You are not right in the head buddy. No one is making any phone calls here. There is no one to make the call and no one to take it. And he is not the devil. Just another promoter.

Just like any other promotion! Name one promotional entity who doesn't do **** like that.

Yes!

Who the hell is making 60mil? No one in boxing is getting that kind of money! They guys in the states are making up to 3 or so million.
Ffs Wilder's biggest purse was 2.1 mil and you see nothing wrong with that?

His value diminishes if looses, thats a given but it´s not like he wont be a cash cow anymore. It wont be taken away so easily.

What Casino is investing such money into boxing? And what investors does Al have?
But most of all they need to make their investment back. 50mil means at 60USD per PPV they would have to sell at least 1.6mil. That would be one of the biggest boxing PPV's. And this would be from two guys who never sold a single U.S. PPV.
Floyd and Manny sold 4.6 mil PPV. They weren't just given the money by some investors. They earned it from the people who paid.

Hearn did have lots of success in the U.K. market. And he signed a good deal with DAZN. Yet you can't understand why he would thing that he can succeed in the U.S. market?

But there is no Bill Gates or Sony or Apple in boxing. Everyone is small time with the exception of a few superstars.

Most likely.

De La Hoya? You have any thoughts on him?
And whom is Eddie robbing? Joshua is making record purses here.

 

@Sephiroth Rising 7

Why should they be equally rewarded? Aj is clearly the bigger draw.
Wilder definitely deserves a cut, but not 50/50. (Good for him if he gets 50/50 or even close to it)

Again, where are they gonna get the 100mil from? Investors? Well they need to get their investment back and turn a profit. How would the do so?

Why would Eddie not get paid if the fight is in the U.S.? How does that work? Eddie has a deal that Matchroom only gets their cut if Joshua fights in the U.K.?

Everyone is looking out for themselves. Again, whom and how has Eddie cheated out their earnings?
Aj? Name me the boxers who have made 20 mil in one night. That list is rather short.