Hearn is a total flop. The DAZN WBSS Deal massively outshined his

I have no words. I couldn't even quote all your posts in full as they exceeded a 10,000 character limit I didn't know existed on this forum.

You're clearly not being honest about your motivation here. No person of sound mind would put this much time and effort into defending Eddie Hearn.

Only you know the truth but I assume you're being employed in some capacity by Matchroom or another affiliated company.

 

I would be surprised if he did anything in NA. He doesn't realize boxing in America/Canada = Niche (Even worse in Canada).

Boxing is HUGE in Britain. He could probably do what he did with Joshua with Wilder if Wilder was from the UK.

 

The UK has just as many major sports as the US.

It is no more 'HUGE' this side of the pond than it is over there.


Mayweather has been racking up record PPV after record PPV for the past decade......
The difference is, Wilder just fights bums.

Wilder is the number 1 HW in the US.....
With his current resume, he'd be behind Joshua, Fury and Whyte in the popularity stakes.

 

Published reports last month stated that if Bivol beats Chilemba, he will sign with Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom Boxing and have his fights streamed on DAZN. Vadim Kornilov, Bivol’s manager, has denied that Bivol has agreed to sign with Hearn.

 

Not sure he would become that big if he started boxing today or in his prime today.

He had a name he built up for a decade + , starting from 1998.

Wilder with his 40-0 (39) would have DROVES of fans coming to see him in Britain if he was British. Denying that is silly.

If someone like Kell Brook could have that many fans, imagine Wilder LMFAO.

Kell Brook (If he were from the States) would have less fans than Porter, DSG, ec.

 

You really don't understand the cultural differences between the US and UK do you?

The UK doesn't support the best fighters, the UK supports fighters who are willing to take risks and make good fights.

Brook had fans because he did this....
He went to America, brought back the title, then went on to challenge GGG.

Joshua had fans because of his victory at the Olympics....
He then when straight into the pro game, and stepped up quicker than any HW i can recall in History.

Fury wasn't popular....
It was largely due to his Gypsy background, but also because of his loud mouth which he had yet to back up.
He went to

Wilder has been involved in one remotely interesting fight in his career.....
The UK fans don't buy into the 0, they buy into fighters taking risks.


Joshua, Brook, Fury, Hatton.....all different levels of popularity, but Wilder wouldn't get close with his current resume.


Calzaghe isn't a popular UK fighter.....he's far below both Eubank and Benn.
Despite being the better fighter, and having that 0.

 

No, UK fans support home grown fighters. The sport is far bigger over there than here. Lol calzaghe not popular, did you see the Kessler fight?

Fact is if wilder was from the UK, he would be far far bigger than Brook LOL, benn, on hatton lvls. Don't talk about things you have no clue about

 

Calzaghe is not on the same levels as Eubank/Benn despite being the superior fighter.

UK fans do not just support home grown fighters.....

As I said before, Fury was disliked, and i'd say it's still 50/50 amongst fans.

 

I sorta understand hatred for some fighters but this level of hatred for a promoter is beyond me..

All they are in it for is to make money and promoting their fights and fighters is how they do it..

 

Haters gotta hate

 

Precisely.

Al Haymon already grafted those connections a long time ago and worked his behind off for decades in order to establish himself in the states as the Godfather of promoters.

Hearn seems to believe his success in the uk is enough to crack the American market and overlook friendly dealings in the states to the point where he can look and treat his competitors as if they are beneath him and behave as if they should drink from his cup

I have more respect for a crook who doesn't hide the fact that they are crook. Just as I have more respect for a an overt racist than one who is a closet racist.

Do you understand? One case there is forthrightness, the other there is deception.

I don't have much respect for Oscar as an individual however as a promoter he wears his heart on his sleeve

Thats the problem the fighters are getting short changed

Well Eddies main selling point is that he is the savior of boxing, bringing in consistent exciting shows with the best cards, so I feel entitled to judge him on the high standards he indirectly placed upon himself.

He has successful shows, however the domestic level fighters such as Crolla, Ricky burns he has on ppv and these are the types of fighters that would be shown for free in America.

These things and more, still happen to this day. We only have to look to the revelant example of the Brooklyn mob boss Razhden Shulaya, who hired Georgian boxer, Avtandil Khurtsidze as an enforcer to take care of and punish certain enemies only of last year. You rarely hear of these stories because this is the underbelly of the sport itself.

Another mobster within the sport use to Manage Andre Ward and that is James Prince who is a former/current crime syndicate who use to deal with the trafficking of narcotics.

Boxing was and always will be corrupted and influenced by the mob

2018.

There are still organised gang syndicates and organisatons, mob families who own businesses and deploy their members to become promoters and managers within the sport who then influence the financial infrastructure within the industry, involving contracts, money laundering, bribing judges and meeting with associates in order to manipulate results. Then we have these men meddling with match making in order for gambling odds and rewards to be skewed whilst paying off fighters with step aside money to influence the rankings etc. The mob will also have family members work themselves into becoming board members and managers to invest stakes in fighters who will then be used as bags of meat to earn them profit.

Only a few years ago Dana White had a run in with the Boston mob and the Japanise crime sydicate gang the Yyakuza warded him off from establishing his UFC business on their territory . Dana White took heed to their warning and never dared to step foot over there again.

Most geniuses have one or two screws lose, it's a apart of the deal

I never said he is ‘The’ devil. I’m not a Christian. I said he is ''A ''devil, meaning in the archetypal sense. There is a difference. The term devil adequately describes the characteristics of a lying snake , as the word itself im Latin means deceiver/slanderer. The main characteristics of a devil is a liar. And hearn cannot open his filthy slick mouth without telling a lie.

Just like any other promotion! Name one promotional entity who doesn't do **** like that.

No other promoters descends to such depths as Eddie. What other promoter constantly release youtube videos/interviews telling the fans he is doing them a big favor whilst ripping them off at the same time?

What other promoter(baring Don King) whispers poison into the ears of their no 1 prize asset so they turn down an historic record breaking pay day?

And what other promoter has belittled and denigrated a black fighter on the basis of their background?

GGG made 30 million and Canelo earned 50 million for their respective super fight. Manny made over 100 million for the floyd fight.

Because he is#s based in a more diverse and wider demographic and hasn't got a gold medal to his name, with huge sponsors and corporations putting most of all their investments into building him up as the next superstar.

The only reason AJ is reciving such large sums is due to the fact he is on a small island with a more dedicated and dumber boxing fan base who know very little of boxing and are more willing to go out to attend a boxing match as a night out to get drunk and place others on a pedestal. Not to mention, AJ knows how to toe the line and play the good boy for his masters.

Compared to Wilder who isn't PC friendly, doesn't tow the line, and is Wilder is bold, proud and loud and isn't willing to know his place.

I assure you the moment AJ begins speaking his mind and stops the yes maas...no maas act, the British public will turn on him like a pack of rapid dogs

Of course he can be still remain cash cow, but the whole way he is marketed will have to change entirely. At the moment he's sold to the masses as the best Heavyweight since Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson. If he were to get knocked out cold by a Wilder right hand (which is highly probable) he will lose a lot of fickle fans and it may potentially effect him mentally, as he has gone on record many times to state how losing is his worst nightmare.

Prince Nassasm comes to mind when it comes to hype and being built up and then one loss destroying his entire career. David Haye's stock plummeted after the Kltischko loss and he had to reinvent himself thereafter from being the cocksure knockout artist to being more of a beggar, appeaser.

 

The MGM grand casino’s have stocks in boxing and act as partners in the big events, to help host the parties, resturants venue etc.

Al also have the sponsors, stock holders, banks, HBO, NBC, Spike, ESPN2, CBS Sports and SHOWTIME Sports as his backers, similar to how the Hearn family has Sky sports as their main backer who contribute towards funding and staging the events.

And of course the fighters and people did their share in contributing towards the profits. However Al haymon and his men had to fund the event, build up the promotion, allocate venues etcs which all resulted to gathering interest for people to dispense with their money. Those ppv's wouldn't have sold without television networks doing promos, interviews,, filming documentaries. How do you think all those things happen?


Are you going to tell me the Heavyweight unification bout with England vs America with two of the best two Heavyweights wouldn’t generate 100 million.

There is nothing wrong with believing you can make your mark in a market. However telling tall tales about Billion dollar deals, Insulting American Promoters and managers such as Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel who have deep pockets and menacing connections, whilst mocking American fighters and their backgrounds, is stepping over that red line.

I was talking more in terms of promoters not fighters. And today's current crop of big fish are Mayweather Promotions, Al Haymon, Bob Arum, Oscar and Roc Nation.


Hearn thinks he can waltz in and topple these giants.

When I say equally rewarded I don’t mean equal amount of pay. I mean they both get paid a handsome sum, that is relevant to the value of the fight.

Manny Pacquiao rejected a 40 million offer from Floyd and ended up receiving 140 million in the end because he stood his ground. He didn’t receive the same amount as Floyd who received over 300 million for the fight. However they were both equally rewarded with a fair share.

Likewise GGG was equally rewarded even though he received less than Canelo for their fight after standing firm through negotians even though he had never recieved anything close to that sum prior to that bout.

Like I said before, the fight would easily generate over 100 million, it’s stupid to think otherwise. Even Eddie Hearn had a slip of the tongue and admitted as much that it was a 100 mil fight, before back tracking and pretending he didn't make that statement.

Yes he would get paid but not as much as if it took place in the uk, simple because he would be unable to directly manipulate ticket sales due to having no control of the gate receipts in the States and of course the 50 million Wilder’s team made the offer directly to AJ, it means Eddie would be entitled to less of the promotional fees.

He’s swindled AJ, Wilder and Ortiz, and there’s probably more lower profile fighters who he has double crossed behind the scenes that has passed my mind right now.

GGG, Canelo, Tyson Fury, Pacquiao, Conor Mcgregor and Klitschko made much more than 20 million in one night and these men were not filling out 90,000 stadium arenas. So it’s clear AJ is being short changed whilst being advised that it he is being done a favor.

 

Are Americans really that scared that a UK promoter could take over US boxing? They haven't even had their first card yet and look at this hate filled thread. There are some ****ing headcases in here god damn.

 

He was HUGE in 2005-2007, what are you smoking?

What's true is that Wilder was born in the wrong country, he would be far far bigger in England and you and I know it. When someone like Kell Brook and some British domestic fighters get the fame that they do, you know something is terribly wrong! British fans love the sport of boxing. Boxing is a dying niche sport in the States. That's a FACT.

Wilder is one of the most exciting fighters in the game!