Marciano VS the 2 Lennox Lewis conquerors

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Colonel Sanders, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,657
    Im quite prepared to accept Marciano was over and above strong for his size, ditto his power.Stronger than Rahman?
    I don't know.
     
  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2005
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    3,779
    Doubt it. Rahman benched over 500lb. Marciano didn’t lift weights because of his bad back

    Functional strength? Maybe you can make a case
     
    mcvey likes this.
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,899
    Likes Received:
    10,100
    How is it a moot point ? Do yo think he was stronger than McCall or Rachman ?
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,899
    Likes Received:
    10,100
    Agreed, and super tough but he was not close to as strong as a Rahman or a McCall .. let's be serious.
     
    Monnever and SuzieQ49 like this.
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2005
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    3,779
    Of course not. Not a fair comparison. Marciano Was only 185lb. Those men were 240lb men who may have been on roids. Definitely much stronger than Marciano. But Marciano was pretty strong for his size eh?
     
  6. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2012
    Messages:
    6,837
    Likes Received:
    4,181
    You are making some good points Combates.
    You comment often on matters related to size & strength-that avatar is you, & you are a power-lifter?

    I also want to compliment you on your newfound, marked restraint & civility.
    I'll bet others notice it to, & it is much appreciated.
     
    Combatesdeboxeo_ likes this.
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    66,389
    Likes Received:
    53,945
    Rahman benched 550 pounds without even being a gym rat. And don't give me the Rocky had greater functional strength argument. Benching is a function" a function that is relative to many sporting applications. Rahman was a beast with loads of natural talent.
     
  8. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2011
    Messages:
    5,130
    Likes Received:
    1,428
    I think Rocky would lose to both of them. They are simply too big, strong, and better than given credit for, especially McCall.

    Now, McCall vs. Rahman would be a good fight.
     
    Monnever and GOAT Primo Carnera like this.
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2005
    Messages:
    55,377
    Likes Received:
    49,982
    I find that hard to believe. Is there actually concrete proof?
     
    ticar and Big Ukrainian like this.
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,657
    No I don't think so, but I've no way of being certain.I was using diplomacy, I'm obviously not very good at it!
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    98,716
    Likes Received:
    30,657
    I don't think that is what I said?
     
  12. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    9,477
    I also don't believe it. I know strong powerlifters with Rahman's size who won't bench 550 lbs. It's way more than twice*his weight which is great result even for competitive powerlifter when we talk big-sized powerlifters.

    On the other hand, I'm absolutely sure Rahman had much more weightlifting strength than Marciano and would've easily won if the two met at powerlifting competition. But they would have been in different weight classes anyway.
     
  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,991
    Likes Received:
    1,141
    Hassin rahman trained power lifting
     
  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2016
    Messages:
    2,991
    Likes Received:
    1,141
    I will show to you a friend. He weighs 82kg =180pounds and he can bench 496.04 pounds
    On this video he is benching 485=220kg his new record is 225kg=496.04pounds

    This content is protected


    He is no powerlifter
     
  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    9,477
    Well he can be very successful at powerlifting competition with that result!