Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

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  1. Nike

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    I think Calzaghe's split decision win over Hopkins proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he will lose a wide decision to Andre Ward.
     
  2. Odins beard

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    How?
     
  3. DoubleJ

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    It is Joe's biggest fan. Froch fought actual prime or close to prime opponents and entered a tournament with the best in the world in it.

    A large bit better than fighting Veit twice and the shell of RJJ, IMO.
     
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  4. Odins beard

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    Said nobody ever.........
     
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  5. JOSEY WALES

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    Because Adelaide Byrd scored the fight to Hopkins ...That's how LMAO
     
  6. OpinionOfACasual

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    An about to retire Calzaghe, stepped up to LHW, and won what should've been a UD......

    How does that prove anything about a fight with Ward?


    Ward isn't active enough to beat Calzaghe imo.
     
  7. JOSEY WALES

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    The only reason Carl got into the super six in the first place is because Calzaghe retired .
     
  8. Nike

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    Andre Ward style is similar to Hopkins
    One of the judges had Calzaghe losing to old Hopkins.
    Andre Ward is younger, faster, stronger and more mentally robust than Hopkins.
    When you add this variables, it spells out one outcome
     
  9. HerolGee

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    a different calzaghe from the now LHW one, you must mean joe wasnt eligible for the weight by that time.

    no worry mate, just pointing out the lie you repeated (you mjust have heard it from someone else , not your fault).
     
  10. HerolGee

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    ah so who was? robin reid was way less active yet arguably beat joe. if reid had been more active, he wouldnt have done better, just poorer quality.


    See, you got it the wrong way - it was joes activity that meant he was able to match world level reid, not his skill - that box stats support that - joe threw much more than reid but his percentgage scoring from them was way belw reids better accuracy.
    Joes activity allowed him to cover up inadequacies in landing blows and causing damage and draw level with world level opposition. not so ar elite.
     
  11. DoubleJ

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    Joe was well past his prime back then but I highly, highly doubt Joe would have entered the Super Six.

    Joe was looking for money by the time the Super Six was conceived. And there was more money fighting the shell of RJJ and a past prime Hopkins. I don't blame him for cashing out at the end.
     
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  12. OpinionOfACasual

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    Huh?

    Calzaghe's 'activity' was his greatest strength......

    You sound like you're agreeing with me.
     
  13. Nike

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    You don't win fight simply by being active. You have to actually connect. What was Calzaghe career connect percentage?
    Throwing a lot punches to overwhelm your opponent might work against an almost middle age fighter but not against fresh pugilist who not only knows how to defend but also how to make a fighter fight to his tempo.

    Antonio Margarito was one of the busiest fighters in recent history, it didn't stop a past prime shane mosley from stopping.
    What the Hopkins fight proves is that when faced with a slick crafty fighter with the ability to make adjustment, Calzaghe struggle immensely. Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins 2 year prior before Calzaghe, I guess he two would have beat Ward by your way of thinking.
     
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  14. HerolGee

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    tell yourself that while u keep running.

    imagine if joe hadnt run, frochs run would have been TAYLOR - CALZAGHE - PASCAL, followed by the rest of the S6 run that dwarfs any run of calzaghe.

    Essnetially topping Joes 2nd best win, the result of joe's cumulative 20 year career, in froch's first 40 minute title fight.

    somehow you think its in joes favour that he ran hahahah! you are a lot laughs pal.
     
  15. JOSEY WALES

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    Actually I agree with this but if Joe had decided there was more money was in the super six than fighting @ 175lbs v Bernie and Roy then he would have gone for it and let's be honest at the time the super six promoters would have snapped him up in preference to a Carl Froch who had just fought a polish fireman . So I stand by my original comment .