WHY are PEOPLE PICKING WHYTE ??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kiwi_in_America, Jul 12, 2018.


  1. Sphillips

    Sphillips Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah Joshua’s reign indicates a Martin rematch is on the cards.

    I mean Breazeale,Klitschko,Takam (sub for Pulev),Parker and Povetkin.

    He is taking the easy route.
     
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  2. Sphillips

    Sphillips Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t believe a podcast would debate what round will Whyte win in.

    I literally don’t believe it.I think you made it up.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Parker has improved, just because you can't see the subtle changes doesn't mean they are not there. I noticed during the Fury fight Parker's head and body movement was much better than it used to be. I think he'd beat Takam and Ruiz Jr more convincingly if they fought again.

    Parker has had to change his style from aggressive combination puncher to mobile boxer as he's stepped up in class and that transition hasn't been easy, but he's far better defensively now.

    Problem Parker has, his offence hasn't changed one bit since he turned pro, which is why you think he hasn't improved your only looking at his offensive skills. He still telegraphs with his jab, he still throws the same combinations and he's awfully predictable.

    Against a better boxer than Whyte that could be an issue like it was vs Joshua, but if someone as simplistic as Chisora can get to him repeatedly then Parker maybe can too, if he can find a way to use his misfiring offence. Parker's biggest issue is he hasn't learned to counter, when he's on the back foot he's poses no threat, only when he sets his feet and throws does he pose a threat but when he does that, because he's so predictable in his attacks and telegraphs his attacks, he's vulnerable to being countered every time he throws, which is why so many of his fights are so close, he can't attack without getting hit back and it results in a tit for tat type fight, where he's reluctant to throw because he knows when he does, he's gonna get a fist in his face.

    If Parker ever learns to be less predictable in his attacks or learns to counter so he can hurt a fighter when they come to him, then he'll be a real contender and threat, but right now he's basically a tank with a faulty cannon and only a reverse gear. But that still might be enough to beat Whyte if Parker can not get too defensive.
     
  4. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker will totally DOMINATE this fight from round one

    Watch and see
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Parker has absolutely not improved even if you say it...it doesn't coincide with reality bc In fact not only did competition get worse he struggled with Cojanu and a non Power puncher Fury....two styles he should have mowed down..


    it doesn't really matter the match up at hand shows Whyte has 90% of the advantages over Parker....at least this time around!

    maybe you didn't do punch counts bc as stated he lost to certain fighters and Whyte is a new level fighter Parker has not stepped to yet....Joshua not included obviously!
     
  6. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fortunately, even if he hadn't (which I don't agree with) Whyte is fortunately a step down fight versus most of his recent competition.

    I like that this fight is actually happening. The post fight discussions will be interesting.
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker had surgery on both his arms late 2017.

    Those problems plagued him for 2 years prior.
     
  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's a great fight if Parker goes forward.

    Personally I know Whyte given a second shot at Joshua makes a better fight.

    Parker? Joshua will always be just to strong...and Parker does not have the style to topple him!

    I forget if i actually did a break down but I'm going with Whyt e late stoppage maybe 12.
     
  9. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That diabolical referee hampered Parker more than Joshua did.He wouldn give parker chance to get inside
     
  11. Darxide

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    I really can't decide on this one, I am hoping that Parker does a number on him. Thing is though Whyte has appeared to look a lot better in recent fights, whereas Parker was really disappointing against AJ and his previous few fights.

    50/50 for me, go NZ though.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The improvements in Parker are clear to see to anyone who knows what to look for. Personally I just think your letting your bias colour your judgement, based of previous posts I know you're no idiot when it comes to the techniques of boxing, you know what you're talking about most of the time, but you do let your favouritism for certain fighters effect your judgement and I'll assume this is the case now.

    Struggled with Cojanu, stop making **** up, he struggled to stop him because of the predictability of his attacks which I have already mentioned but he dominated Cojanu winning by a landslide decision. Plus we all know Parker had an injury which he has since had surgery on.

    If that's your definition of struggling then I guess Whyte struggled with a shot Helenius and David Allen. And let's not even mention the Chisora fight.

    As for Fury, he faced an opponent that refused to engage. I picked Fury to win that fight, but he simply didn't show up to win, thought he could nick a few rounds and steal the belt on home turf but that back fired badly. Hard to impress vs such a negative opponent, kind of like Helenius vs Whyte, but you'll conveniently forget that little nugget of truth to suit your opinion.

    If Whyte has 90% of the advantages I haven't seen it. Parker moves better, has better defence, faster hands, quicker combinations and better chin. All Whyte has in advantages is work rate, counter punching, jab, possibly strength, reach, better overall offence.

    Suffice to say it's for from a 90/10 kind of fight more 45/55 or at best 60/40 in my opinion in the favour of Parker. Wouldn't shock me if Whyte won, he has shown improvements as you say but I don't think it's enough right now to beat Parker. I think it's going to go to the cards and be very close, perhaps controversial.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    Agreed it's a great fight if Parker comes forward, he's too reluctant to throw because he's so easy to counter, but if he can be the aggressor we will have a real tear up.

    And yes Whyte would give the fans a much better rematch with Joshua. He can talk ****, he got under AJ's skin before, he can do so again and make him more reckless. Whyte's stamina has improved a great deal since the first fight, so won't gas, and Whyte's counter punching which is what hurt Joshua has improved, he's a much tougher style for Joshua as you say.
     
  14. Rustyman

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    I have to say that I have gone back and forth over this fight. Initially I thought that Whyte was on the up and had improved considerably since the Joshua fight. It seems that he has become more of a boxer than simply being a brawler.

    I know Parker did not show his best against Joshua (and no the ref was not against him, etc., etc.). He was too tentative, he did not throw enough punches, he was too concerned about not getting knocked out rather than winning.

    However, I think Parker will be much more confident and therefore throw more punches against Whyte and for that reason, I think that he has the slight edge.

    I think this will be a great fight but I am now picking Parker by a late stoppage.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    That is why