Luis Ortiz says Wilder beats AJ!!!

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  1. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Over at the scene, says he knocks him out in 3 cause he ain’t no old ass Wlad /shrug. AJ and Hearn did duck Ortiz though so maybe he’s salty. Either way says AJ gets stopped hahaha.

    Before the keyboard warriors come through and attack me I didn’t say it the man that’s actually been in the ring with Wilder said it so he would know more than us sitting behind keyboards who have never been in a professional fight
     
  2. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    It's like asking Tony Bellew who is going to win. He threw in his lot with Haymon and he's already had a reward by being reinserted into the WBC mandatory conversation months after his wilder loss.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He never fought Joshua and so he can't really compare them and of course a fighter will say the guy that beat them is better than anyone else, ego can get in the way from seeing the truth.

    As for Ortiz, he had his chance to fight Joshua, he refused to sign with Hearn and signed with Haymon and was negotiating a fight with Wilder even before he was named mandatory. Had he signed with Hearn he would now likely be fighting Joshua instead of Povetkin.

    But Ortiz chose to go and fight Wilder instead, and didn't back up his words and take Joshua to court to enforce his mandatory like he said he would. If he had really wanted the Joshua fight he would of taken him to court or signed with Hearn or waited until his shot came.
     
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  4. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Ortiz has seen champions come and go for the last 40 years and sparred with the most of them. He knows what he's talking about.
     
  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As #1 Self-Identified Wilder fan, we don't need Luis Ortiz testimony for this one. Any boxer who got KTFO by someone will say that, psychological coping.

    Anthony Joshua a man who is technically one division heavier than Deontay Wilder is the one who convinced everybody that he has no chance vs Deontay Wilder. Fear is spine deep in Anthony Joshua, his only hope is that Deontay Wilder deteriorates badly
     
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  6. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz predicted Foreman over Ali so take his prediction with a grain of salt
     
  7. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    Ortiz told everyone hes only 38/39, and predicted hed beat Wilder, look how that turned out. Obviously not a gambling man.
     
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Until Joshua develops some headmovement, a better jab, and better uppercut I see Wilder knocking him out.

    Ortiz's superior timing and experience is what was giving Wilder a lot of trouble, but due to age he couldn't sustain it in the later rounds and got cut down by Wilder when he gassed.

    Stiverne in the first fight was also able to keep Wilder from stepping into his punches due to Stiverne counter punching, which is why he took Wilder the distance.
     
  9. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    How hilarious if they stall AJ-Wilder till 2020 then it's a boring decision like the Parker fight lol!!!! Always those fights were two big punchers=decision. I doubt it but ya just never know.
     
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  10. thabanga510

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    Man he did sign with Hearn and Hearn kept him away from Joshua. Hearn used his WBA lifeline and made sure they got him off the rabkings.
     
  11. Bearabroad

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    Is that the same timing and experience that saw Wilder being out boxed for extended periods against Molina, Spzilka, Washington and getting his face busted up by Duhaupas?

    Until Wilder gets bailed out of course by his admittedly good right hand, nevertheless he seems have trouble with a number of fairly mediocre boxers. Go back and watch Ortiz against Scott and sub British level Dave Allen... he is not very good either
     
  12. Holler

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    When Columbus sailed the ocean blue,
    Traveling where few men would dare,
    One thing gave him courage when peril grew large,
    Luis Ortiz was there,

    When the great fire burned through London Town,
    From afar men stopped to wonder and stare,
    As the fires went out they were quick to agree,
    Luis Ortiz was there,

    And now carbon dating allows us to know,
    The age of the most ancient rocks,
    Yet older than all is that legend we know,
    As that Cuban that knows how to box,
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope they fought on a fight by fight basis, he never signed with Hearn. I mean who's ever heard of a 5 month contract? Even if he had signed with Hearn which he didn't he probably would of tried to get out of it to avoid fighting Joshua like he did with Goldenboy to avoid fighting Ustinov.

    Ortiz left his previous promoter Greg Cohen who was suing him for breach of contract, to sign with Goldenboy in 2016. They made him try and fight an eliminator with Ustinov, which he pulled out of twice and then literally a few months after signing with Goldenboy paid them a $1 million to get out of that contract and then went to fight for Hearn on a fight to fight basis only for him to refuse to sign with Hearn and then sign with Haymon in March 2017.
     
  14. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I will said it now! Ortiz kos joshua!
     
  15. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If Ortiz said it , we now know it’s 100%. They don’t even have to fight.