Anyone here read "Live Fast, Die Young the Life and Times of Harry Greb"?

It's obvious that the events that took place were racially motivated. I really hope you don't think a black person in America at that time would have gotten a fair shake.

Neither you nor me has time to play these games McGrain. You're a grown man. You know I was referring to race relations in the United States.

 

You'd think grown men would be able to get past petty ****.

 

He wasn't a legit champion. He wasn't the best in the division either. Not by a long shot. At best Chip was a very beatable fighter. He beat a man who won the title on a disqualification with no rematch. Chip lost his next fight to Leo Huck but it was a no decision and he could only lose the title if he was knocked out. In fact all of Chips defenses were like this. He could only lose if he was knocked out.

 

Well yeah there's no way we could be absolutely certain of what happened but it's incredibly unlikely that the version of what happened in Compton's book is the true unbiased version considering he's getting his information from white people that were almost certainly racist. It's kinda scary how much white people didn't like black folks back in those days. It's some sort of unholy hate that I find truly incomprehensible.

 

That's just how things were back then. I have immediate family that can attest to the race relations here in the progressive part of the United States even in the 1960s and 1970s. We both know it was extraordinarily worse in the 1910s.

Just take a step back and look at the situation: A black man is surrounded by an angry mob and beaten for, what they say, was harassing a white woman in 1910s America. The Ku Klux Klan was becoming more powerful than ever with chapters all across the country, not just in the south. It's not entirely impossible for the black man to have truly been in the wrong and deserved to be surrounded, beaten, and chased by an angry mob but I find it rather far fetched that the white newspaper would give an honest review of accounts. If you ask me what probably happened given an understanding of the circumstances surrounding this, I'd tell you a black man was acting like he was equal to white folks and they didn't like it.

I was thought I was being rather polite about it. I don't expect you or someone that isn't from the United States to be familiar with US history as much as someone that has been taught us history (that time period I might add) repeatedly for years as apart of the education system. Also I took many us history classes while in college I might add and race relations were a very important topic that never went away and were always talked about from the perspective lens of the historical time period.