Anyone here read "Live Fast, Die Young the Life and Times of Harry Greb"?

Are you kidding me man? Don't hand me that ****. I dig what you're saying and completely understand. We're in the same boat but I'm talking generally speaking. A white person that refers to black people as negros is a racist. Do I really have to continue this argument? Do you really have that much dislike for me?

 

If you read the way this guy (Compton) talks about mere journeyman in his book you'd understand where I'm coming from. There's only so much a record can't say about a fighter and from his book you'd think the record wasn't true.

 

Frank Klaus didn't have over 100 fights. He didn't even have 100. That's besides the point. The original argument was about whether or not Chip was a world beater and the fact remains he wasn't. Just look at his resume. Littered with almost as many losses as wins and he defended against absolutely horrible title competition.

If I wasn't me and I was someone you respected then we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's okay to not like me but don't act like you're arguing a position because you believe in it. You're arguing because it directly disagrees with mine.

 

No I mean as it relates to their standing in the division. He overhypes just about everyone. Fails to mention their records but the guys he's claiming are these big tests for Greb and were extremely skilled or avoided fighters in the division I check their records and they have like 12 total fights with more losses than wins.

 

Carrying a gun doesn't make you a bad man. I'd carry a gun too if I was black and white people could kill me at will with most likely no repercussions. Shooting someone in the face in self defense is entirely plausible. Don't forget that it's not legal to assault someone just because they talk to a white woman.

They didn't say he put his hands on the women, he wasn't harming the women, he was "harassing" the white women. This scenario has played out over and over and over and over in American History and many times it ends with the black man being lynched. Recognize the pattern.


We aren't looking at this from two totally different views. I think where we differ is I'm willing to take the leap after looking at the scenario and recognize that this isn't the first time that white women/people in general did violence against a black man for speaking to white women and calling it harassment. Don't forget that white people back then were even willing to go before a judge under oath and blatantly lie just to see a black man unjustly executed or for white men to walk free of murder.

 

I'm glad we have no issue. The world and this forum is filled with enough bs. You post a lot of fight/fighter analysis right?

It was Stephen Compton not McGrain. I haven't seen anything from McGrain to suggest he was a racist. The paragraph wasn't written in the 1910s, it was written here in the 21st century by a poster on this website. If you read this book you'd understand the vibe I'm getting from it. I didn't even get the book to pick Compton apart, I got it because I genuinely wanted to learn about Harry Greb and I think overall the book does a good job of that but there's a lot of bias in it that someone who might not have common sense that is gained from experience with reading articles then examining the real thing might not catch on to. It's with anything really. Not just boxing. People tend to over exaggerate things when they retell it to someone else. Especially in an adrenaline fueled sport like boxing.