Evander at CW vs. Usyk--who ya got?

Oleksandr Usyk

 

Uysk, Holyfield is an ATG heavy but beating dwight braxton does not cut the mustard at cw.

 

Holyfield everyday of the week and twice on Sundays!

 

No one. Cos its fiction.

 

Either way Prime Toney beats both

 

Commander Vander at this point.

Usyk needs to move up & mix it with the big boys.

What he does at heavy will determine how is remembered as a cruiser.

Ftr, I think Usyk can do very well as a heavy.

I can't rate him above Evander right now though b/c he hasn't done it.

In terms of their actual accomplishments at cruiser, I'd say dead even.

As for who would win a fight between the version of Holy that beat Carlos DeLeon & the version of Usyk that beat Gassiev, I've got nfi.

 

USYK USYK USYK USYK USYK

 

Sand man youre going down the route of not thinking, at cw uysk resume is as deep as the mariana trench, at 215lbs at hw he will school atleast half the top hw's.

 

Agree with you, but that doesn't make him better than Holy.

He needs to do it, not just be capable of doing it.

As Evander did.

And I'm always thinking.

 

If we talking CW.. I see a 50/50 fight as I rate them both #1 CWs off all time.. Holyfield wasn’t there much longer than Usyk.. If we talking overall, then would have to fight Wilder and Joshua to get a gage on how they match up at HW.. One thing Holyfield didn’t do when he moved up was duck anybody people forget Tyson-Douglass was a de facto tuneup fight for Tyson-Holyfield(Which I still say would have been the most skillful HW fight ever).. So Usyk can’t move up and not fight AJ, DW, Parker, Whyte , Ortiz etc.. to be on Holyfield’s level career wise..

 

Holyfields resume at CW isnt that deep or even good, he beat dwight braxton, a great fighter but also physically limited at higher weights. resume means alot. i think uysk would have beat fields at cw, at hw we definitely cannot say.

 

Usyk>Evan Fields

 

Dat dere is known as cognitive bias folks.

 

I don't think Gassiev was all that. He looked like a guy with 30-odd amateur fights to his name which he is.

Dwight Braxton is a HoFer.

I like Usyk. I think he can be heavyweight champ.

But let's see him do it before we say he's better than Commander Vander.