Usyk vs Tony Bellew at heavyweight

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  1. Mark Adam

    Mark Adam Active Member banned Full Member

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    I`ve read Usyk would like this fight at heavyweight and Bellew has stated, he is ready and waiting. Who do you feel will win if they meet at heavyweight?
     
  2. BCS8

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    Usyk
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk wins 8 rounds or more.
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    50/50. I'm still not sold on Usyk's chin and his stamina, but if both hold up I think he has a good chance of beating Bellew by decision, but on the other Bellew is quick and has good head movement of his own along with power. I'd say Bellew is a much better puncher than Gassiev, so I'd love to see this fight.
     
  5. VERY FEEL

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    So he's fought big punching beast after big punching beast in the strongest division in boxing, and fought the best super heavys in WSB and all the best amateurs.. and to my knowledge never been put down even once.. and you think he has chin problems! hahaha he has one of the best chins in the game clearly

    Also his stamina is ****ing unreal!

    Bellew a much better puncher than Gassiev is a funny joke too!

    Run along troll.
     
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  6. Mark Adam

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    You just convinced me to watch, I was in two minds but what you`re saying makes sense and I feel Bellew is underrated, I think T.Fury should fight the winner because he looked awful in his last fight so his size wouldn`t be as big a factor.
     
  7. Mark Adam

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    How comes there`s so many big punchers in the cruiser division?! Who were they knocking out?
     
  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who has Gassiev knocked out that was any good. He dropped Lebdev, but once Lebdev adapted Gassiev became a punching bag just like in the Usyk fight.

    Also, Usyk's pace started slowing down a lot in the middle rounds against Gassiev even though he had a heavy bag in front of him. Usyk's pace didn't pick up again until the championship rounds. I'd like to see how his stamina holds up against a more talented and mobile fighter, since I knew all along that Gassiev, who is a very stiff and slow fighter would be no competition.

    Gassiev vs. #5 Dorticos
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    Gassiev taking 12 rounds to stop the light punching and weak chinned Dorticos

    Dorticos vs. Edison Miranda
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    A shot and old Edison Miranda exposing Dortico's power and chin. Miranda was coming off two back to back losses at 175 and an almost one year layoff and had no problem competing with Dortico's and taking his power.

    Bellew vs. # 5 Makabu
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    Makabu unlike Dorticos has power and even knocked Bellew down, but Bellew knocked him out cold.

    Bellew vs. Edison Miranda
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    Bellew beating Miranda into submission.

    Bellew vs. # 8 David Haye
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    Bellew knocking Haye out.
     
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  9. VERY FEEL

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    @Jackomano you always look for the most controversial thing to say., You are SERIOUSLY saying Dorticos is a light puncher and weak chinned! :lol: he took bombs flush all night long against Gassiev that would have knocked out 99% of Fighters, he proved he has a solid chin unlike his Cuban glass compatriots. And his record going into the fight was 22-0 21 KO's .. say no more! :lol:
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are correct that some underrate Bellew, largely because unlike most fighters of his age, he's kept improving and adding new layers to his game. But once again we do need the full picture. Bellew also struggled with:

    Chilemba, who is not elite ... this is a guy that Usyk's smaller and somewhat less skilled friend Gvozdyk obliterated and stopped.
    Cleverly, again not elite - Kovalev destroyed him.

    Bellew's kept improving - good on him - but he is a big underdog vs Usyk. He will go out there and try his best, and full credit for that, but even he realizes it's an uphill fight.
     
  11. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way Usyk has a great chin. It just doesn't get hit clean enough. The first big shot Gassiev landed on it shook him for a second. Dorticos conversely ate bombs all night. Dorticos, at CW, clearly has a very good chin and I think is just as big a puncher as Duradola.

    Usyk by 8-10 rounds. He's got a bigger frame than Bellew, is faster and much more athletic, and much more skilled. Might even be a shutout or KO.
     
  12. Webbiano

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    Bellew shouldn't be underestimated, although I'd have to make Uysk favourite. Uysk is definitely the better boxer and boasts the better physical advantages apart from punching power. Bellew has shown he can stick to a game plan and stick to counter punching, showing excellent timing and good ring IQ in the majority of his fights, which is the perfect equaliser against a fighter that can overwhelm him with speed and counter punching. He'd be a live under dog and if they fought 3 times Bellew might win one.
     
  13. Jackomano

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    Chilemba was ranked #7 and was in top shape when he fought Bellew. Against Kovalev Chilemba was out of shape and had been out the ring for almost a year and was coming off a tough and close fight against Alvarez. Gvozdyk fought Chilemba after Chilemba was coming off two back to back fights against the #4 and #2 in the division and wasn't even a top ranked fighter anymore.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

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    Usyk would murder him.

    Disappointed how conned everyone is by Bellew and the hype and mass overrating he has gotten the past year.
     
  15. DoubleJab666

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    lol.... Tony would be so far out of his depth he should do the ring walk in a deep sea diving suit... and keep the helmet on when the bell rings...
     
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