Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

Honest question for the mods......why is this guy not perma banned?

 

HerolGee = 36,000 posts and just 1,000 likes lol ( that probably came from Boyfriend Dino or his 'alts') .
How pathetic is that posts to likes ratio! lol Shows what a crap poster he is.
Indians even underachieve in boxing forums as well

 

No idea!
All his posts come under 'trolling'. yet he gets a free pass bizarrely! Maybe the mods hate Calzaghe and Klitschko too are some biased reason like that.

They should be banning him for his mental health at least

 

show me the lie.

 

and yet this person of whom you speak, a troll with mental health issues to you, needs the two of you to combine forces and you still fail to take me down.

you arent advertising yourself well here, nice one, pal!

you'd better rethink your tactic, take time out and come back, try again.

 

We have to remind ourselves that here is a guy who claims Kovalev cleaned out a division by beating Cleverly, Pascal and 50yo Hopkins yet doesn't give an ounce of credit to JC beating Hopkins 8 years previous when he was number 1 at 175.

 

'take you down' on a forum lol. The Mods are letting you rot on here! I think they are actually playing with your health by not perma banning you. I've destroyed you enough, it's not my fault you can't afford private health care.

 

how would you describe your behaviour here, for me or against me?

haha yeh not for. So yeh you are failing in your tag team up against a guy you think has mental health problems.

How many of you will you need for a single normal person? hahaha!

c'mon pal, dont kill yourself over me, I wish you only the best.

 

bailey,

Here we are after 6 years still having the same argument. And I'm sure that we'll still be arguing the same points in another 10 years. It's crazy.

The 'King of Spin' at his finest, trying to find a loophole. Ha!

I've already given you plenty of reasons.

Yes, he didn't avoid anybody at SMW.

And?

Why don't you take a look at the bigger picture?

This is a guy who literally starved himself to make SMW in order to defend a lightly regarded WBO belt for years, when there were better fighters to target at LHW.

This is a guy who just dismissed guys he didn't want to fight by deeming them not worthy, despite being more than happy to fight C class fighters.

Andre Ward was an elite fighter. Just because Joe fought Lacy and Kessler, it doesn't mean that he'd definitely have fought Ward and Bute.

There's just too much evidence of him taking the easy route to say that it would have been a given that those fights would have happened.

I've made it crystal clear.

"I don't want tough fights"

"I'm not interested in Tarver, he's done nothing apart from beat a shot Roy Jones"

"I'm not interested in Pavlik. He's done nothing to warrant a fight with me"

"I'm not interested in Dawson. He doesn't excite me and hasn't beaten anyone"

This is the guy who fought Salem, Sobot, Veit x 2, and who according to Frank W, was more than happy to fight Freeman Barr.

This was not a guy who sought out the best guys.

I don't care.

The above information is more than enough to question whether he'd have fought Ward.

The whole context?

Ha!

Behave.

He wouldn't be refusing them if they arose?

They were just words. Completely meaningless. We know they were never going to arise. Anybody can say things like that. It was a con job. Trying to fool the uneducated. The casuals. He made sure fights against the likes of Roy could never happen by continuing to defend a lightly regarded belt in a different division.

You're just continually repeating yourself.

Again, the evidence that I've put forward should be enough for anybody to question whether or not he'd have fought a guy like Ward.

You can't solely fixate on his actions at SMW whilst ignoring everything else.

Are you telling me that if Roy had stayed at SMW for the majority of his career, you'd be certain that Joe would have fought him, just because he didn't duck anybody at the weight? It's laughable.

Joe may have handled Dirrell. But we never saw Joe fight a fellow southpaw with Dirrell's skills and hand speed.

My original point was that Andre Dirrell was a better fighter than Mario Veit, and I don't care what kind of stats you try and spin.

Regarding Froch-Dirrell, it was Froch who struggled and got a gift. He was basically awarded the fight on aggression, despite Dirrell repeatedly countering him. I've watched the fight 4 times. Although Dirrell let himself down towards the end of the fight, he'd landed all of the cleaner, more effective punches.

 

Okay, but how could you miss the most obvious opponent in Andre Ward?

Yes, Bute may have been overhyped, but he was still prime.

 

Like I said, based on stats.

He had 44 fights at the weight, so his accomplishments outweigh everyone else's.

It's not enough.

He was never a better SMW than a prime version of Roy.

 

Me and you went back and forth on this topic last year.

You never returned.

Glen Johnson became a force at LHW after Roy and Dariusz had faded.

What about the previous 7 years?

I gave you rankings of each year by the Ring, to show you who fought in each division.

From the start of Joe's reign until Roy and Dariusz burned out, the LHW division had better fighters.

If you want to mention Glen Johnson, that's fine.

I'll put forward Charles Brewer. A top 3 fighter at SMW during Joe's reign, despite having done nothing at MW and being beaten by B and C class guys.

Whilst Joe was at SMW, the following fighter's were at LHW:

Roy Jones
Dariusz Michalczewski
Virgil Hill
Reggie Johnson
Montell Griffin
Graciano Rocchigianni
Eric Harding
Clinton Woods
Antonio Tarver
Michael Nunn

 

Ha!

Nobody but you would consider Ottke a better fighter than a prime version of Roy Jones.

Just stop.

What if Joe had moved up to LHW earlier in his career, and on paper, Sven Ottke had the better stats at the weight?

Would you be telling me that Sven was a better SMW than what Joe was?

Sven wouldn't even have had his SMW career had Roy not have moved out of the division. Roy could have sat on his IBF belt for years and nobody would have taken it from him.

 

I left Andre out of it because he was imo close to his prime .

 

And sorry most fans after watching Bute get saved from a nailed on KTFO loss by the ref in the first Andrade fight knew he wasn't all that.