Sonny Liston vs Joe Frazier

Who of his era? Lmao!!! It means shi7 my point is that every guy that you mentioned are mediocre or pure trash.except williams and patterson and maybe machen
Frazier:
Ali
Quarry x2
Bonavena x2
Machen(stopped unlike liston)(yes yes i know past prime blahblah frazier was green too)
Ellis x2
Mathis
Chuvalo
Foster
Bugner

Not even a debate who was more proved

 

Oh okay I thought Liston stopped quite a few ranked guys ,I didnt know they were either mediocre or pure trash.

 

Ohh excuse me the great bethea

 

Chuvalo
Mathis
Ellis2nd
Machen
Jones
Foster
All unranked when he beat them, that's 6 out of the 13 you named.
Now we have

Ali .Dec.1 out of 3
Quarryx2. 2xtko
Bonavena x2. 1 Split Dec, one Dec
Ellis1.Ret
BugnerDec
Not looking so hot now is it?


Liston beat a prime ranked Machen who went on to beat Quarry,who is two of Frazier's biggest wins.

 

Hahaha during my life i have seen 100 tactics to distort reality but this one is too much to me.
One person who tries debating the fact that frazier did beat better opposition than liston did it is the extreme of the biasness.
" all unranked" the best guys that frazier did beat (except Ali)were in their absolute peak and they were not better after or before never. And a i don't care a crap about the rankings, in a weak era a roach could be ranked in the top 3, the guys that frazier did beat are better than the best victims of liston

 

Frazier beating some better guys than Liston doesn't mean jack for his chances H2H.

 

And I don't care a crap about your histrionics.
Frazier has one win out of 3 against an Ali with 18 rds of boxing in 4 years under his belt, two wins over Quarry whom an old Machen beat, and wins over Ellis,that is the sum total of his noteworthy scalps.
Frazier defended his title against two men not even in the top twenty !When is the last time that happened?

 

Some not. Absolutely a complete better resume. At least here we got FACTS !!! IT IS A WORLD MORE THAN YOUR INVENTED GARBAGE ABOUT LISTON BEING A H2H MONSTER BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED IT BASICALLY INVENTED

 

Sonny Liston is a lie !! He is not a top 10 hw does not matter the way to judge him,career or h2h

 

You're almost coming across as having a bit of an agenda here Boxeo

 

Explain me it dear

 

Oh yes it does. Otherwise Micheal Grant would have beat Lennox Lewis. Gerry Cooney would have beat Larry Holmes.

 

That’s a good win for Sonny.

But Ingo especially and much later Frazier did a better job on him.

 

And Foreman would never have beaten Frazier

And Douglas would never have beaten Tyson

And Rahman would never have beaten Lewis

And Leon Spinks would never have beaten Ali

And Barkley - Hearns

And 100 000 others.

Thankfully fighters don't beat others strictly via resume. May as well not even fight if that were true!!!!

 

I don't think anyone needs any explanation sweet pea.