If These Had Been Tyson s Title Challenger's?

I'm sitting here watching the movie Tyson on Amazon prime and find this thread. I'm at the part where he fights Tony Tucker

 

Amen!

 

Byrd lol tyson would kill all them .rahman could hurt tyson with a crazy lucky shot but tyson wins anyway

 

Non sense.

Tyson was 19 when he beat Tillis...........WK was way older when he quit against human punch bag Purrity. If pretty much white washing the cards against 6'3to 6'5 fighters coming to survive in Bone Hugger/Tucker is "struggling" than I have some Ocean property in Arizona for you to look at. Yeah Bruno got him with a good shot while Tyson was no longer firing on all cylinders but nevertheless finished Bruno brutally........that shot he walked into would have Ko'ed or knocked down close to 90% of top Heavyweights.

Byrd, lol, he always fell back to the ropes trying to out speed slow big guys except Tyson is faster than him and if Ike can make him drool than Tyson will catapult his head into the cheap seats, fact not fiction.

There is not ONE fighter on that list who can either outbox/frustrate Tyson or can go to war with him in a fire fight , not one.

 

Tyson beats them all with ease, Byrd and possibly Sultan have the tools to survive and maybe win a few rounds.

2004-2015 was the worst period in HW history not only were the fighters of a low caliber but nearly all were very boring to watch, glad that era is over.

 

Tyson gets through them, without too much trouble. He could probably fight each of them twice, over the three year period, and go 20-0.

 

Rahman and Byrd may give him a bit more trouble than he bargains for, even dropping a few rounds the longer the fights go on. David Haye doesn't belong in the same city as Tyson, let alone the same ring.

 

I don't agree. If Tyson had never fought and lost to Douglas, the idea that he ever would have lost to Douglas would now be viewed as laughably stupid. Or suppose either Mike or Evander had been injured before their fight, and Tyson Holyfield was cancelled and never rescheduled. We might have threads on ESB right now in 2018 with posters mocking the idea that that incarnation of Holyfield could have beaten Iron Mike.

I expect I would be reading something like: 'if David Bey could finish Buster Douglas, then Tyson would send him to the morgue!' or 'if Holyfield lost to a puffed up light heavyweight chinless chump like Michael "***** Tits" Moorer, then Mike Tyson would have stolen his soul!' You can play this game all day if you choose to reduce a fighter to his worst performances.

Byrd, Chagaev, Haye, and Ibragimov were all world class heavyweights. There's no doubt their era was weak compared to the high water marks in the division's history. They compare unfavorably to Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Shavers etc. But so do Tony Tubbs, Trevor Berbick, etc.

While Tyson is clearly an atg and a brilliant offensive force, I reject the notion that the idea that he would effortlessly demolish every heavyweight WK defended against. While he had fights where he was terrifying and dominant, he also had fights marked by lapses in concentration and where he looked less inspired.

 

I'm not the only one who thought Tyson looked in subpar form against Tucker and Bonecrusher (or Bonehugger as you said). The fans and boxing media more or less unanimously criticized Tyson.

You could argue that that is a product of unfair high expectations, and I might agree with you, since he dominated the scorecards even though he seemed to get easily frustrated and didn't throw many combinations.

 

Yes,imo.

 

I think he beats them all. These guys are no better than the guys he beat the first 3 years of his title.

 

If he looked subpar to you then its because you were expecting a 1st round knockout.

He looked like the dominant fighter defending his title against an opponent who doesn't have a realistic solution to beating him.

And by the way, Thompson, who I picture would hold, hold and his way into a lopsided cards loss. Everyone else? I smell a brutal stoppage.


Honestly speaking? Tyson's list of title defenses was actually a lot better than that list, there is a clear talent deficit.

 

The simple answer is that most of them would not have earned a right to challenge.

The exceptions would be chris byrd, and possibly iggy and shaggy, 2 of the strongest klitshko challengers, as tysons weaker defences.

perhaps Haye, maybe Peter but unlikely they would make the cut in time to earn a defence given all the others would have to be around during tysons short reign, thus keeping these relative weaklings out of the runnings. I mean relatieve to tyson.. relative to wlad they are again some of his best wins.

He would bulldozer this lot early unless they simply fought to survive and had the ability to do so eg byrd.

 

true, though a 37 year old thompson wouldnt get past the contenders in order to land a title shot, nor would tyson even think about giving someone so weak a shot.