Does Mikey wanting to fight Spence prove that Arum is the roadblock for the Loma fight?

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    No it doesn't, you have turned your own thread into another anti Lomachenko post/thread......it's sad when you do it to others but even worse when you do it to your own.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I checked his post history lol he's a loma stan :risas3:
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    They won their title at the same age. I love how you Loma stans bring up how Loma accomplished so much in so short, as if he was 18 lmao.

    Who has an L again?
     
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    As opposed to you who is a what?.....well what would you describe yourself as?
     
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    Who's achieved more in their amateur and professional career?
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Amateur? Loma definitely. Pro, that's 100% subjective. The only thing Loma really has on Crawford is achieving a lot in such a short period of time. Quality of opposition is very similar.

    Who has an L though?
     
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    I’m saying Usyk is p4p1 in my eyes. With Crawford and Loma being 2a -2b depending on what you consider better accomplishments. I mean Loma has a loss to a shopworn Salido and his resume is thin. Crawford unified his division at 140 but his resume is slightly thinner than Lomas. I mean Horn wasn’t a spectacular win no matter how you slice and dice it. It was okay win but we all knew what was gonna happen. Loma has gone up and challenged himself more but he like Mikey picks and chooses the champions they fight when they move up they don’t pick the best champions they just pick guys they can beat with gold around there waist. Also Usyk did it by going into other people’s backyards and I respect that. He’s not AJ come to me so I can be comfortable all the time cause I can’t handle hostile territory.
     
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    Well Salido deliberately missed weight to ensure they wouldn't be the same size. He then capitalised on some truly woeful officiating to score a razor thin win.

    Anyway styles, sizes and whatnot make fights. I think Mikey is a fool to fight Spence if that's what he ends up doing. He gets run over like overreachers Khan and Brook did when they went up too high against top drawer guys.
     
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    So by me asking who Crawford fought in his second pro fight lends credit to my initial point.....
    Lomachenko jumped straight into the deep end.....Crawford took 5 years until he fought a top 30 type fighter.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because he was 26 LMFAO. Credit to him, but he wasn't 18. At 26, you don't really have time to build.
     
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    I get it now.

    Me personally I have top 5 P4P

    1. Lomachenko
    2. Golovkin
    3. Usyk
    4. Crawford
    5. Garcia
     
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    So now age is the barrier.....does Tyson being chanpuib at 21 make him better than Ali?.....
    Should we only take Tysons resume into account or any fighter for that matter only into consideration when matching their respective ages?

    Don't blame Lomachenko for owning the amateur game whilst Crawford was fighting scrubs.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Crawford would never lose to a Salido at 26. That's all I know.
     
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    You know we disagree often but I actually was thinking the same thing, or rather I think he doesn't "really" want to fight Spence but he wants to bring Arum/Loma some urgency toward making the fight happen. Like, fight me now before it's too late and I do something else.
     
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    Maybe not, but it's an odd move to move up so quickly to fight Spence when there's a big fight waiting against a more renowned opponent that's actually smaller than he is with much lower risk.
     
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