Dillian whyte should be ranked 2 in the division now

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Infern0121, Jul 28, 2018.


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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Each to their own

    When you rate Ortiz, go back to Brown who was also undefeated, had a bigger KO %, was younger, bigger and had a better win than any of Ortiz with his win over Chagaev as well as being a former title holder and being able to win on the road.

    I read what you wrote about Brown but didnt think Ortiz had looked great in his fights before Wilder against Allen and SCOTT and he hadnt been masively active either with only one fight in a year
     
    bailey, Jul 29, 2018
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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    No way is he ahead of Wilder, or Povetkin.

    Did anyone rank Parker ahead of Ortiz?
     
    BitPlayerVesti, Jul 29, 2018
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  3. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Seriously, that's beyond ridiculous. These aren't P4P ratings.
     
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  4. Yizzy

    Yizzy Member banned Full Member

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    agenda spotted
     
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  5. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Oh no can't possibly rank anyone except the champs above the mighty ortiz.

    He beat Bryan Jennings!
     
    Infern0121, Jul 29, 2018
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  6. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    I take the view that all of Usyk's fights have been at heavyweight.

    When the "cruiserweight" division was first introduced, it was known as "junior heavyweight".

    To me it still is. It's true value as a weight division is prepping guys to challenge for the heavyweight championship of the world.

    Usyk was the Olympic heavyweight champion, beat big heavies like Joe Joyce & Junior Fa post winning his Olympic gold medal & is ready to challenge for the heavyweight championship of the world right now.

    If others don't think so, that's fine.

    I do & that's why I've ranked him where I have.
     
    Sandman_, Jul 29, 2018
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  7. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's madness. How can you rate a guy who may not even move up! Haha
     
    nurological, Jul 29, 2018
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  8. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Let's not rank the undefeated Olympic heavyweight gold medalist who has beaten big heavies like Joe Joyce & Junior Fa since winning his Olympic gold medal & who would easily beat most of the consensus top 10 heavies right now.

    Makes sense.
     
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  9. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    You can try to re-write history all you want, but the reality is that this guy hasn't had a single fight at the HW level as we currently define it, and therefore should not be ranked at that weight.
     
    The Professor, Jul 29, 2018
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  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wilder ducked Whyte so he needs to be ranked BELOW Whyte. That's just common sense.
     
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  11. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    What weight was he fighting at when he won his Olympic gold medal & boxed the ears off Joe Joyce & Junior Fa?
     
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  12. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Amateur records have zero relevance to professional ratings. Rating a fighter in the pros at a weight he has never fought at is simply not justified under any circumstance.
     
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  13. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    What did Floyd Patterson weigh when he was heavyweight champion?

    Should we be erasing his heavyweight lineage from the record books, Professor?
     
    Sandman_, Jul 29, 2018
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Translation:

    Look guys, Whyte got a huge gift decision and had a biased ref and judges that I'm going to totally ignore and pretend like he deserved because I want him to rematch AJ soooo badly, because I'm truly, genuinely and absolutely scared shitless at the prospect of seeing our national hero, icon and reason for being get decapitated by big bad scary windmiller Wilder.

    Don't look at the man behind the curtain, this isn't a terrible attempt at sleight of hand, I swear.:deal:
     
    CST80, Jul 29, 2018
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  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Are we talking about a paid fight on the ten point must system without headgear? Is that the kind of am fight we’re discussing?
     
    NoNeck, Jul 29, 2018
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