Who does Ortiz get next?

Miller is fighting Wilder's 35th and 38th opponents in his 22nd and 20th fights.


If you're arguing Miller is fighting Wilder's leftovers....
What is Breazeale?

 

So Whyte has to fight the whole top 10 to get a shot?


Ortiz and Breazeale haven't had to fight 1 top 10 to earn a shot.

 

I hope Ortiz fights Whyte, that would be a war.

Parker would also be interesting, but i think he would taste the counter left hand and go in survival mode again
like he did against Joshua, it would be a similar fight, Parker has no dog in him, Whyte has.

 

I have no problems with wilder fighting whyte fury aj or even usyk after he has a fight at hw. I'd rather whyte over breazeale.

 

Whyte would get laid out by Ortiz. Anyone with eyes that can see knows that.

 

Ajs leftovers who happen to be mandatory to his belt but since the fight hasn’t been announced I can’t really say Wilders fighting his leftovers we just assume. Well Fury says he’s in talks with Wilder so he may not even fight Breazele lol

PS doesn’t matter when you fight them still his leftovers

 

I don’t think Hearn wanted Ortiz anywhere near Joshua.

 

So we are now going down the road of comparing resumes/performances, I thought you said that stuff didn't matter.

But you want to compare Whytes performance against Allen against Ortiz performance then I'm fine with that

As long as we can compare Chisora Vs Scott and Ortiz Vs Scott, what does that tell you in your wisdom?

Is Chisora a top 3 Heavyweight? He has beaten Scott in better style than Ortiz and just knocked out Takam, arguably a better win than Jennings, Oh right, I forgot, resumes and comparing performances only matter when it suits your argument otherwise it really don't matter.

So you basically need excuses for your Top 3 heavyweights poor performances, what about the "good" ones, was Ortiz juiced up for those? Because since he got caught he hasn't looked great has he.

Ortiz is proven drug cheat, he can't be rated, sorry but all his performances before he got caught are question marked, they are tainted, they are stained and some of them were poor anyway.



Oh and you do know that Allen had less notice for that fight than Ortiz? Allen was completely out of shape, So what's your point with regards to that?

 

Yet an unfit, short notice Dave Allen went 7 rounds and was stopped on his feet, Wilder who is chinless survived Ortiz' power and Malik Scott who was blasted out by Wilder and Chisora went the distance.

Yeah you've convinced me.

 

LMAOOOOOOO.

You exposed yourself as the dumbest piece of **** and sb. who has his whole boxing knowledge from Boxrec and other sides.

Malik Scott blasted out by Chisora....LMAO I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE WHAT YOU WROTE THERE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Malik Scott ffs was wrestled to the canvas by Chisora and the ref gave him a nice british stoppage although Scott was easily able to continue and not even knocked down in a legit way. You should start watching boxing matches and not only reading some records on Boxrec, you piece of dumb ****.

Rewatch the Ortiz vs Scott fight and take a look how Scott was knocked down three times in a legit way.

You completly exposed yourself with that posting.

Absolutels ZERO knowlegde you have, you do not even watched those fights, hahahahahahhahahaaaa

I am out. Stop bullshiting me with your shithouse postings. You DKSAB. You are simply the worst poster in here. You have no idea about boxing.

 

You just go on boxrec without actually watching fights.

Allen went the distance with Whyte and Scott basically quit against Chisora because he was tiring, but about even on the cards. He didn’t win a second of the fight with Ortiz.

 

It should be Wilder, Whyte, or Parker but I'm afraid it'll end up being somebody closer to journeyman status.

 

Scott wasn’t a British stoppage though. He pulled that act where he most likely pretended to lose track of the count.

 

I don't think anyone seriously doubts Ortiz isn't a top 5 heavyweight and a serious threat, even if he is past prime. He's a damn good heavyweight but he is far from invincible and wouldn't be favourite over Wilder, Joshua or even a fit Fury. Even Povetkin and him is a pick em fight I think.

What people are doubting is that he's some monster or bogeyman that everyone ducked when he himself ducked Ustinov twice and in reality it was he who ducked Joshua by signing with Haymon and negotiating a Wilder fight even before he was named Joshua's mandatory.

 

Then why did he show case him to the British public by staging 2 fights against Scott and Allen. Fact is Hearn knew Ortiz was mandatory and it would happen sooner or later and so tried to build Ortiz's profile in the UK with these fights and he even tried to sign Ortiz so he'd have a safety net if Joshua lost to him. If Hearn never had any intention of ever agreeing the Ortiz fight why would he do all this? Why waste his time building a fighters profile and attempt to sign him. Doesn't seem like the actions of a man looking to avoid Ortiz, seems like what a good promoter would do to build a future fight.

Fact is you are simply speculating based on nothing other than a desire to believe Joshua is afraid of Ortiz when the truth is Ortiz more than likely ducked Joshua. It was Ortiz who signed with Haymon and Ortiz who all but agreed a fight with Wilder even before Ortiz was named mandatory for Joshua.