Do you think Mikey can outbox Lomachenko?

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  1. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    The consensus seems to be that Mikey would KO Loma or Loma would win a UD. However, what's the likelihood of Mikey simply outboxing Lomachenko?
     
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  2. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    Mikey will need to land harder shots to slow down Loma. In order to do so, he'll need to outbox him in some ways. He'll need to cut the ring off, throw hooks to the body as Loma tries to escape, etc.

    Will Mikey win a tit for tat points affair? No.
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's possible. Loma throws a lot of punches which means there are opportunities to counter. If Mikey just lands the more telling shots he could win rounds. I could see Mikey winning a decision. I favor Loma though.
     
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lomachenko has an "L" like prime Roy Jones, but after RJJ schooled JT many people had a hard time imagining him being outboxed.

    Its our quest for an Übermensch out of the human dimension that makes us root for exceptional talent, sometimes beyond reason

    On paper any decent fast boxer with a reach/size advantage should be able to outbox Lomachenko, Mikey Garcia is a decent boxer, but not that fast or that big...So Mikey has no chance to outbox Lomachenko.

    Mikey is wise enough to choose Spence over Lomachenko, with Spence he has more to win in a winnable fight
     
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  5. Cafe

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    I'd actually favour Mikey to outbox Loma if it comes to that. The thing is that boxing is a lot about range, I am just not a fan of how limited Loma is in this aspect due to his reach.

    I'd feel like Mikey would be able to control the range with his excellent footwork and jab.

    It wouldn't be a schooling even if Mikey does win on points, would probably be a very close fight.
     
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  6. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t know...
    After seeing the Easter fight, I can’t see Mikey outboxing Loma. Hurt Loma sure, but outbox him?
     
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  7. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You will need much more range to outbox Lomachenko, Oscar De La Hoya an excellent rangy elite boxer couldn't outbox a shorter craftier Elite boxer in Pernell Whitaker.

    MAB was able to outbox Hamed
    De La Hoya was able to outbox Camacho
    Felix Trinidad was able to outbox a older Pernell Whitaker (more reach than DLH vs an Older Pernell)
    Tarver was able to outbox an older RJJ (reach vs older RJJ)

    So it can work vs Elite boxers with shorter reach, Lomachenko is on the same level as prime RJJ or Pernel Whitaker

    Mikey is on the smallish side, not fast enough to make the small reach advantage work for him, Mikey Garcia skills might work vs the big, fast but limited Spence
     
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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    limited lol
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets put it this way, Salido beat a then "limited" Loma

    Limited as in accumulated experience, Spence is still a young stud depending on raw speed, power, size. Nothing pressured him to develop complex skills. Most fighters are limited (in skills/ring wisdom) at the early stages of a pro career

    Mikey already saw the other side, lives in an existential conflict vs the boxing deity Bob Arum, that alone will pressure any fighter to optimize their skills because every fight is a possible close decision Loss at best
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In a 12 rd fight, with a few flash knockdowns, he might win a SD/MD.
    But he needs the luck of the draw.
     
  11. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He could out box him he’d need to be Salido 2.0 for the first 3-4 rounds just use his size and power to wear him down then switch to Mikey. Also if another one of you jackasses calls him Mickey I am slap the **** out of you through the comp
     
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  12. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mikey is too basic, he is excellent but basic, Loma loves this style
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes he could. he has a beautiful 1-2 that would stop a little guy like loma in his tracks, of course loma is skilled enough to adjust to that, but mikey is skilled enough to adjust to lomas adjustment. lomas best work is done when he slips to your sides and catches you adjusting to his position, all mikey has to do is push lomas shoulders anytime loma beats him out of position. without perfect balance, loma is trapable, and little shoves at the right time will complicate his work.
     
  14. Salty Dog

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    Slim and less. I'm with the consensus on this one. That said, Linares proved that Lomachenko can be hit by a well schooled, accurate puncher. Can't wait for this fight to get made.
     
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  15. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma can be possibly caught on the diamond, but it will only help win a decision. As those types of knockdowns don't lead to a stoppage

    • Linares is slightly rangier than Garcia (both in reach and height)
    • Linares leaps more often than Garcia (Garcia is more cautious)

    That helped Linares get a well earned KD, at the expense of catching much more in return.
     
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