Fury v Wilder makes sense for both sides

If Wilder wins he'll be considered as the guy who beat the real Champ and his stock will skyrocket.

15 million is 11 million pounds for a unification which Hearn estimated had the potential to be bigger than Lewis Tyson which in this day and age with social media it is very feasible. So it can be considered crack money when we look at what other fighters have received in super fights involving unification.

GGG rejected 10 million which would have been his highest purse and many on here said it was a disgrace

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Even Marquez conceded that offering a flat fee to a fighter one method of ducking

Marquez: Canelo's Flat Fee Offer is a Way To Avoid Golovkin!

They are really punishing Gennady Golovkin [by offering a flat fee] .... because it's just a way to avoid to Golovkin, it's a way of saying we do not want the fight. We are not going to pay you that much, would you like to accept it?" Go ahead. Logically they can generate $200 or 300 million [from the pay-per-view event], which is just an estimate," Marquez told Golpe a Golpe.

 

Looking forward to seeing a big fight for the lineal (and real) heavyweight championship of the world.

Will go down in New York, the capital of the world.

The winner will be top dog of the heavyweight division & able to demand purse parity with Joshua.

Joshua's legacy will be badly tarnished if he doesn't claim lineage.

 

Great post, agree with most of your posts about this fight raising Wilders negotiating power should he take out Tyson.

I would love this match up, before his layoff i would of guessed Tyson but currently i am leaning Wilder unless Fury can show more of his older form in his next fight. Regardless, great match up!

 

Come on lets be realistic here you've got the 2 biggest BS talkers in the division talking about a fight. The chances of this happening is as likely as Lewis coming out of retirement and fighting Vitali.

Even if it's true the winner doesn't get 50% vs Joshua not a chance unless it does very, very well on PPV. Joshua will remain the A-side and will demand the bigger share and rightly so.

But it would give the winner more leverage and increase the pressure on Joshua and Hearn to compromise more from their current stance and give them a percentage and not a flat fee.

But as I said it ain't happening, I mean Fury is also calling for Chisora to fight Wilder lol.

And former unified heavyweight champion, Tyson Fury, would fully support a showdown between Chisora and Wilder.

“I would be the first to back him in a world title fight,” Fury said to The Sun.

“I’ll back the campaign, let’s get a campaign going where we get Dereck Chisora a world heavyweight championship around his waist.

“The guy deserves it, he’s a warrior, he’ll fight anybody, he’s been on the road, he’s fought the best in the world, he’s still going – even when people write him off.”

 

Notice how fast & early they're making this fight to undercut aj & hearn & make them look like major ducks while they promote the fight as the real fight

If this fight really gets made AJ name will be all over the promotion

Also just in time to make that potential april date & whoever wins can come with major bargaining chips & bragging rights

They've already started the collaborative smear campaign

 

Wilder vs Fury.

I wonder how many times these 2 will mention AJ in the build up. It could even end up with both of them hugging in the middle of the ring whispering in each others ears insults about AJ.

"Tyson you are so much braver than that "coward" AJ"

"no Deontay, you are braver than that body builder"

"yes Tyson, we are so brave, the bravest in all da yulaverse"

Both are envious of the man in the most insecure/obvious way.

 

The fight doesnt make sense for Wilder unless he's certain that Fury is washed up.

Wilder could make much more if he took AJ's offer. Wilder would even make more money if he fought Whyte instead of Fury too

 

It makes no sense at all for Fury because at this stage he still has plans for getting all of his belts back and losing to Wilder will pretty much derail those plans..

Fury is actually taking a ultra conservative route which means he wants to make sure he is at his best before fighting the top guys..

Fighting Wilder at this stage of his comeback would most likely end up as a ko loss..

Really you have two of the biggest bull**** talkers in the division making themselves staying relevant which is both of their bread and butter..

 

I'm not sure I would rush Fury into a fight with Wilder that fast. I respect what Fury has overcome. And I think he needs to be in the 240's before he fights Wilder. Fury needs to take a few more fights and maybe look at taking on Joshua ,Wilder and big baby Miller which I think is a top 5 figher already maybe next summer. I like what I see from Fury so far because he has the skills to win back those belts when he is at his best. I'm not sure who Wilder will fight next but I would love to see him fight Ortiz again which is a very risky fight. Joshua has already ducked Ortiz so I give Wilder credit for fighting Ortiz but he almost got his ass knocked out.

 

Yes, it does. Especially for Wilder. Who should (if he really believes in himself ) definitely grab this opportunity as soon as possible. Because Tyson Fury will become more and more dangerous for his with each fight.

 

Great OP but just on these points:

We've seen one, frankly terrible outing from Fury so far. He looked a million miles from someone who could even credibly share the ring with Wilder, let alone beat him. He signed a 4 fight deal with Warren and BT sport with the express intention of fighting warm ups till next year. The next guy isn't dangerous enough to tell us much. He looks slimmer in latest phots but are we expected to believe they think he's so far ahead of schedule that he and his rookie trainer are even mentally capable of the pressure of a Vegas fight for the WBC belt?

If Fury did take this it would be an implicit acknowledgment that he and his team don't think he can sustain the pro lifestyle for any length of time and they're getting a big cash fight sooner rather than later accordingly. Hearn would block the path to AJ with a Bellew or Whyte who Fury may not be able to cope with so he's taking Wilder option instead.

Point 7, I think the loser is in a bad place. Fury would lose his 'lineal' last shred of the Dortmund kudos as well as his unbeaten record and the mystique he's built along with it. Wilder his record, belt and the embarassment of losing to a guy who was 26 stone not so long ago. Wilder would have a rematch clause most likely however.

I don't think it happens. If it does I think it says something about Fury, either supremely confident or getting a big cash out before the wheels inevitably fall off. I'd say the latter in that case.

 

Whilst both will claim bragging rights, I doubt this fight makes much more money in the US than an ordinary Wilder fight, thus not having the desired monetary effect in negotiations. Fight would need to happen in the UK to both draw attention and fans away from Joshua/Matchroom, and increase their bargianing power. Holding this fight in the US would be a dead horse and promote minimal change in their payday negotiations.