Anthony Joshua vs Luis Ortiz... who wins and how ?

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  1. Joshua TKO 1-6

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  2. Joshua TKO 7-12

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  3. Joshua Decision

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  4. Ortiz TKO 1-6

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  5. Ortiz TKO 7-12

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  6. Ortiz decision

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  1. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Ortiz, and I would have said that before the Wilder fight, because before he fought Wilder, I was a Ortiz fanboy, and he's kind of a stylistic nightmare for AJ.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua KO in 2nd half of fight.

    Joshua's biggest weaknesses are his stamina and inability to cut off the ring well. Ortiz doesn't throw a lot and Ortiz is a plodder. He won't make him gas and he can't move well enough to make Joshua look human like Parker and Takam did.

    Joshua will respect Ortiz's power and won't just go in all guns blazing knowing he could be countered, he'll gradually break him down behind his improved jab and make the smaller Ortiz be the one to take chances by reaching in and then counter the counter puncher.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joshua can defo be knocked out and Ortiz has the tnt but age might get in the way as it did with WK.
     
  5. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua. Against Wilder, Ortiz was the more physical guy and really he was able to control the fight to some extent, but against Joshua it's a whole different ball game. Against AJ he has to rely on boxing skills. But his movement isn't out of this world like a Tyson Fury or Usyk's would be, therefore he leaves himself vulnerable to AJ. I'd expect a fight where AJ is in control, bullies Ortiz to a ko mid rounds, maybe round 5.
     
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  6. Okin129

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    Joshua TKO 7-12.

    Joshua would always be in control with his jab, fight would look at short periods like a counterpunching slugfest
    where the bigger, stronger, faster and younger guy in Joshua would always has the better outcome of the
    exchanges, can't see how this fight would be a stylistic nightmare for Joshua, it takes speed, great movement
    and power to beat Joshua, Ortiz has only one of those 3 things.

    Ortiz won't be the guy to defeat Joshua, Wilder and maybe Fury could, nobody else.
     
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  7. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Ortiz is a smaller and older version of the god who walks this earth with us.
     
  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    FFS Ortiz is 98 years old, our boy wouldn't beat up a man that old with a heart condition.

    It's immoral.
     
  9. CST80

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    Allen still coming forward in the 10th.
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    Allen stopped trying to come forward by the 1st.
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    Denigrate him all you want, you know you're all full of ****.:deal:

    AJ come forward?:lol:

    Mr. Cautious ain't about that life.:deal:
     
  10. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz by brutal ko! Pub boys will drink the cool aid after and we will never hear some coward b.s anymore
     
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  11. edabomb

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    Ortiz a plodder? He is by far one of the craftier heavyweights around. By that standard they are all plodders.
     
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  12. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    If you use this argument for AJ v Wilder you would have to say it would be a walk over by AJ given comparing both of their fights against Molina..

    AJ just smashing him out like a fly but Wilder had trouble so who do you think has more power?? Compare those two fights in isolation you would have to say AJ, he destroyed Molina compared to Wilder...

    In fairness to Whyte I think his shoulder injury took a long time to get back to 100% so we can take anything between AJ and Browne out of the equation..

    He has surprised me in his last two fights and I suspect he is now at 100%...

    Sorry for rambling at bit but I'd say if Allen fought Whyte fight now he would no way see the final bell...
     
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  13. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If AJ fight Ortiz similar to how he fought Parker then it who would be a dull fight of cat and mouse... you have to factor in both guys power and I don’t think neither guy would want to get hit.. I’m leaning towards AJ 7-5 due to his youth..

    The fight that interest me the most in HW is Ortiz vs Whyte.. Whyte is a bruising brawler with brute physical strength but how would that play out vs a powerful tactician as Ortiz.. will he walk into counters all day or do he smother Ortiz like a Shawn Porter win..
     
  14. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    We know now AJ has no qualms about fighting boring to get the win and yes I agree that he would play a very defensive fight not wanting to get hit... Ortiz doesn't go too well if he has to make the action and he only really got Wilder in trouble because Wilder thought he got Ortiz hurt so he went in unprotected...

    Otherwise there was long periods of both Wilder and Ortiz starting at eachother..

    I think AJ would jab his way to a boring UD...
     
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  15. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see it going the same way as the AJ vs Takam fight.