Anthony Joshua would be absolutely trashed here if........

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  1. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    he`d been fighting the level of opposition that Wilder has!!! You all know this is a fact.
     
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    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    You're not wrong...

    Make that any HW outside of America with that resume and they would be under scrutiny.
    I was happy to see him fight Ortiz, as it was a real step up.

    Given the praise that he receives by his fellow countrymen, it really should have been a step down.
    Reality, we saw the level that Wilder is at, a very small notch above someone like Ortiz.

    People who beat him:
    - AJ by stoppage
    - Fury beats him by UD (by a laughable margin on the cards)

    People who have a 50/50 chance:
    - Whyte
    - Povetkin
    - Parker (Parker from the AJ fight would have beat him, but mentally I believe he is damaged goods now)

    As seen against Ortiz, Szpilka, Washington he has struggled against B level heavies who have the slightest bit of footwork. Put him in with a plodder and his is a beast. Big puncher, limited skills.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    False champion already gets credit for being a false champion. End thread/

    He gets praised for beating Kevin Johson, Martin, Molina Takum, Dillian Whyte and a semi retired inactive shot Wlad.

    His resume is a complete sham already, so you're argument is worthless much like the rest of your posts.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    hehe did you enjoy parker losing to whyte?
     
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    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder only has one decent name on his cv. Joshua has two, soon to be three. I give him Parker also although Parker is not in the same class as WK, Povetkin or Ortiz for me. They would all beat Whyte.
     
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    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    It may surprise you ellerbe, but yes, I did actually!

    I would have been more upset if Parker came back to win in the end, as he wouldn't have to rebuild and learn from his own mistakes.

    There is no killer instinct in him, and lacks a boxing brain. He could/should have got rid of Whyte early...
    Like Wilder he's limited. He can't just rely on his natural advantages, as he is his own enemy in the ring.
     
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  7. KingFury64

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    Klitschko is an ATG heavyweight whom AJ dispatched in his 19th fight. Remind me how many posters on here were saying Joshua will KO Wlad because he is shot? Don`t seem to remember too many. Once again I have trounced you with the facts.
     
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    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    - Whyte would be 50/50 against Wilder if Wilder would be brave enough to fight him
    - Ortiz is Whyte level and had a genuine 50/50 shot. Given Wilders status, he should have made easy work of him.
    - Don't lie to yourself. Wlad of the AJ fight would have KO'd Wilder
    - Takam up until the AJ fight was a 50/50 fight against Wilder. But hey, lets play this off as if Wilder already fought Takam...
    - Parker has proved he is limited, but even he would have a 50/50 shot against Wilder
     
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    Think thats a bit harsh. When he got his second wind and stood up to Whyte mentally, he looked like a different guy and was going for the KO.

    Still have him as top 5 think he beats Ortiz and Povetkin. Not sure who Otiz has beat to get the praise he seems to get.
     
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  10. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This guy gives more credit and rates Ortiz over Joshua for goodness sake!! Don't think you can have a reasonable conversation with him regarding AJ, he seems to have a severe personal problem with him.
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Maybe, just maybe, he wouldn't get trashed as much as he does if shitheads like you would stop incessantly posting these sycophantic knob slobbing ball gobbling threads about him.
     
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    Hey Sephiroth Rising 7 YOU`RE BUSTED SON!! Here`s what YOU said before the AJ v Klitschko fight.

    "I've been told, that AJ will be too young, too powerful and too ''hungry'' for Wladmir Klitschko.

    Do you know what these people have been saying? They are saying that Wlad no longer knows how to let his hands go, and that he is finished as per see with the Fury fight. This usually provides me with a good belly laugh because these archaic minded simpletons do not understand that one swallow doe not make a summer." LOL
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    YOU'RE;)
     
  14. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Oh don't get me wrong, I think Parker did well to come back later in the fight. I have always known Parker to have guts, he's a tough dude.

    Mentally, he struggles. He always will, unless he is pushed by a new trainer.
    Similar to Tua with Barry, he doesn't know how to push a fighter when they are locked up mentally.

    Parker was buzzed from the headclash. It didn't have him on wobbly legs, but it threw him off completely.
    I understand we may have seen a different result if it hadn't happened, but it did. Kevins job is to help his fighter and give them the ability to adapt. We saw none of it.

    From that fight, and the last, I hoped Parker would move away from Barry.
    He hasn't...and with that, I don't see him changing.

    Definitely top 5. He has all the tools to beat Wilder, Whyte and trouble AJ on the best of days.
    But, until he makes changes, he will fail at the top time and time again.
     
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    More of your insight into how Joshua v Klitschko would pan out Sephiroth Rising 7

    "Lasly Wladmir possess twice the power to that of someone like Dillian Whyte who managed to send AJ into a momentary seizure, yet we found out later the same power didn't even to phase domestic hopefuls David Allen and Ian Lewison who all took Whyte's best shots in their stride.

    So I ask what chance on this earth does Joshua have against a man who possesses such superior power?"