To be Fair is Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, and Tyson Fury overrated?

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When looking at the three kings of the HW division, I just don't see the greatness that I saw in greats like Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Mercer, Bowe, Frazier...etc
    Wilder just had his first big test in 40 fights, Fury beat an out of prime Wlad and has not done anything significant since, and Joshua, although the most talented out of the three, is not as invincible as everyone has made him out to be. Sure, Joshua has the best resume, more talent, and a better personality compared to the other three, but he still has a lot more to prove to be considered ATG. I personally feel that the reason why they looks so dominant is because they are fighting in a weak HW era. If they were back in the 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's they probably wouldn't be as good. Does anybody else agree?
     
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  2. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Nope.

    It is HEIGHT and SPEED and POWER that set these guys apart.

    Fury is 6'9", Wilder is 6'7" and AJ is a beast.

    I think they would be near the top in any era.
     
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  3. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    All overrated when compared to past greats, Wilder most notably so. Guys like Big George Foreman would destroy any of them. Ali would make them look silly.
     
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  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Yes. They are all crap.
     
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  5. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a different era! Same can be said about wlad, but its not his fault his era sucks! So i think they are all legit
     
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  6. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    staring at each other like mirrors
     
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  7. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not about them being legit, it's about whether their talent and competition match up with the great HW's from the past. And based on the eye test, their talent, and their competition it just doesn't seem so.
     
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  8. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This may be the weakest HW division in history when looking back at the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and 2000's
     
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  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do not believe that either of these three would be top 5 in the 70's, 80's, or 90's tbh. Hell, if Mercer was in this era, he would probably be undisputed.
     
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  10. Okin129

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    No they not overrated.

    You don't see the greatness because you don't want to see it, be a little more open minded and stop searching
    for flaws only and consider the obvious strenghts all three of them have in abundance and you will see that
    all of them are formidable heavyweights.

    Guys need to ease up on the nostalgia. Nobody is discrediting the fighters from the past by saying fighters from
    today are good. Eras are not comparable and the H2H thing comparing fighters from 50 years ago with fighters
    from today is most of the time pointless.
     
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  11. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On that point we know they are not
     
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  12. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    It's not the strongest of eras but it's competitive and Joshua wilder and fury have very different styles and different strengths and weaknesses which makes things intriguing.
     
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  13. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The HW division sort of reminds me of that time I saw a blue whale take a killer **** & drop out 3 floaters..
     
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  14. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They aren't overrated as they are the best in the division. Triangle theory not applying to boxing aside, meaning each would struggle more with their tougher matchups but that doesn't mean they aren't the top. Just means styles make fights. Far as comparing them to past greats let them cook, **** ain't done yet. That's one annoying thing people do that I don't participate in. Discussing legacy before it's built while pretending their past heroes were perfect in a revisionist history sense. It's ****ing disgusting.
     
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  15. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That honor goes to the Klitschko's era of the 2000's after Lennox Lewis retired.
     
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