Why I think GGG is a top 15 all-time middleweight.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Apr 13, 2018.


Is Golovkin a top 15 all time great at middle weight?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    if arthur abraham or 3g get to 20 defences one day then we can compare them with hopkins.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so i was helping u out, and this is what u do.

    stop shooting yuor fellow 3g fans in the back, idiot.
     
  3. BCS8

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    Sorry. To make up for it, there's a position of lingual sanitation specialist open at the local hostel. You know, for the bowls. And the troughs. You'd be perfect.

    I AM a 3G fan! You're right. Thank goodness for 3G I couldn't take those low download speeds anymore:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G

    4G promises to be even better:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
     
  4. HerolGee

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    idiots like u ruin 3g's reputation
     
  5. BCS8

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    I dunno, I think 4G is going to supercede it and it's a good thing. I mean, newer and better cellular technology is a plus, right?
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Key Point. Canelo fights well above 170. That's a light heavyweight. He's not a blown up light weigh tor welter weight fighting at just above 160 pounds. What did De La Hoya weight when he fought Hopkins?

    Yes--Brook was also a blown up welter.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    canelos a lmw, dont pretend hes not.

    but it not so bad, still a great draw for ggg
     
  8. Mendoza

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    No you did not. Part of your problem, you did not answer my questions! Hopkins best wins at 160 aren't great. GGG is about even with him, the difference being GGG has NO losses, and he wasn't floored. He tends to stop his guys and unlike Hopkins is a clean fighter.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    He's a PED filed light heavyweight who de-hydrates to make 160 pounds then refuses to step on a scale on fight night. If you look t the films, he's bigger than GGG is in about every area, except for height.

    The draw was bogus. Should have been GGG UD.
     
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  10. HerolGee

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    yeh lets disregard completely the difference in numberof defences too. in that case BJS is nearly level with 3G cos hes matched 3g's 2nd best win !
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    hes a lmw who drew with mw number 1 ggg, more credit goes the other way but you still try and take it the opposite way.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    You can tear Johnson , Joppy , Echols , Holmes apart all you want , nothing i say will make any difference. You'll just walk away and come back another day with the same arguments.

    On their own those are average wins , but stacked along side Golovkins wins they look the same or even slightly better. Thats the argument here.

    Echols was a one dimensional heavy hitter just like Lemieux but with a little more skill.

    Lemiuex is the ONLY champion Golovkin ever beat so you could arguably call him Golovkins best win, k?

    How good was he? Look at it like this - a green , barely regional level Chris Eubank Jr did better against Saunders than top 5 ranked David Lemiuex.
    Eubank took 4-5 rounds off Saunders where Lemiuex took zero. And that was a Eubank who wasn't even British level at the time. Lemmie was regarded as one of the best in the division.

    Lets go one step further while i'm here.

    How did Lemiuex obtain a title? He won it against N'dam after it was left vacant by a shot to pieces/mentally damaged Jermain Taylor.

    Jermain Taylor who was half crazy at the time came back to MW during Golovkin's era and became the IBF Champion. It didn't last long however as he was carted off to the loony bin which made his title vacant.

    So that is how GGG acquired the only belt he ever won off a "champion". A mental patient to a D level paper titleist to GGG.
    Thats one of the weakest examples of a title exchanging hands in history.

    So instead of rubbishing Hopkins opponents , i challenge you to debunk what i just posted.
     
  13. BCS8

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    What weight is 164?
     
  14. HerolGee

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    mw
     
  15. BCS8

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    Except for that Saunders has improved tenfold since he beat Eubank, and his schooling of Lemieux is proof of that. At the time Eubank lost to Saunders, BJS said it plainly that he was in no way ready for GGG and that Golovkin would beat both him and Eubank on the same night. Clearly, he's a MUCH better fighter.
     
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