Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

andres win was average over froch because froch was faded??

HAHAHAHAHAHAH failey no wonder they call you failey.

 

It is so fun reading the postings of an absolutely fanatical fanboy. The fact you would actually rate Joe with or above Leonard shows just how twisted and a reach of logic your "facts" truly are.

Joe was straight out asked about challenging Roy Jones Jr. and said "It would take the crown jewels....I know my limitations." You can put the blinders on and say what you'd like, but that's straight from your hero's mouth. He later in his career flat out stated "I'm not looking for tough fights."

You worship Joe. I could tell that as a lurker before I joined. You should listen to what Joe said. He meant it.

I'm off to engage posters who can view the sport a little more objectively.

 

Are you absolutely stupid or just having trouble reading?
Let me help you out thicko

I havent rated Calzaghe above or below Leonard. I havent compared them. I wrote you bringing up Leonard was irrelevant.

I didnt realise I had got to you so badly that you were going to have to resort to making things up.
You said you were done when you couldnt debate the subject but come back with a lie. Pathetic at best

Once again you have proven that you have absolutely no idea what you are even talking about. The crown jewels comment and the limitations comment werent years apart, they were in the same interview which if you had read also mentions how he would be willing to fight Jones.
Read this link below from 2000

https://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2000/0912/151409-boxing/

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You really werent watching when Calzaghe was active and as said before. You dont know enough to get into this debate.
Still you can bring up some other irrelevant fighter and come out with another lie.

 

No they shouldnt.
Froch and GGG were both world champs. Froch was an unknown British champ when Calzaghe was a SMW fighting the best SMW challenger in the division at the time (Kessler). Froch didnt win a SMW title until after Calzaghe had moved up to LHW, had 2 fights at that weight and retired.
Better to compare Froch not fighting Degale, though a big difference was Froch didnt have a fight against a legend lined up like Calzaghe did against Hopkins, though Hopkins was looking at a Froch fight but Froch wasnt interested

For the record, I have never seen anything where it says GGG was looking for a Froch fight so dont think Froch ducked that fight


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/31167739

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What planet are you on?
You keep trying to look for something else or to put words in my mouth which you cant do with me.

He has done several interviews and I read them, but you just pick and choose the parts you want to suit an agenda.

He said he hurt his hand again in the 6th round on one I showed you. I have seen another where im sure it said he didnt know about it.

If he said he didnt hurt his hand again until the 6th round, do you think that meant it was hurting up until that point?
If I go by your logic and knowing that Ward pulled out of the previous bout with Froch, do you think Ward would have even started if he went in hurting before the first bell? I couldnt answer that either way and dont try to bend stories to suit, but what do you think.
Straight answer instead of the long waffling

 

almost all calzaghes opposition were unknown, he would have fitted right in. Your point means nothing.


joe ran cos he wouldnt have got bulldozed, if 40somethings were knocking him over.

 

oh wtf, dont go pretending shot 40something roy jones had anything left. He was ok to beat crapster like jeff lacy but nothing else besides.

 

"i'm not chasing roy jones" - joe calzaghe, exact words. How you must rue the day he said those words, thereby destorying every post you made to the contrary for the next 17 years.

How does it feel to have the guy you are defending rip up your arguments for 17 years on the trott, with just five words?

 

I dont need to bait you. You work yourself into it and start going on about what you think fighters were thinking etc. Wont be long before we get to that...

But have said yourself that you werent really a fan and more casual.
Now you are coming out with this classic. So you were watching Calzaghe on the terrestrial tv. I bet it was a shock for you with the way he beat Delaney? You were watching that I bet?

I cant see hiow you could learn as you are someone who can only see things one way and dont account for circumstance and are a stat person who sees it all in black and white

It was his dream. Why would he have retired when that was really what he had trained to do?

Still when it is so documented about his hand problems even him as an amateur talking about it and worried he might not be able to go pro and the documented operations he had, it proves what I said about you not being able to see the reality for what you want to believe.

Loudons world he never had bad hands because that doesnt suit Loudon lol

Why do you lie?
Eubank had won 2 fights in less than a year before facing Calzaghe
Also it can once again be what you want to believe with what someone says.
For example

So as said before. I have seen many different things and while I dont dismiss any, I dont try and distort it like you.
I read how Froch couldnt move his elbow properly before the ward fight so apparently couldnt get his hand up to protect himself. So should that then remove from Wards win in your opinion?

I havent disagreed with this but have said Eubank was a more accomplished SMW, with better resume, was more skilled, and younger than Froch and an all round greater SMW. Tell me what you disagree with there?
Now you can site eubanks losses to Collins which have been considered debatable so you must also consider Frochs run of debatable decision to Pascal, win over Taylor, debatable decision to Dirrell, loss to Kessler, win over Abraham, debatable decision to Johnson. Nearly all of those were tough hard fights as well not to mention the other battles Froch had, but you wouldnt site thosenow would you?

Different fighters. I rate Eubank higher than Froch, that I dont think at SMW would be in much question if you know the division and its history. That doesnt remove from Froch who I rate also

Different fights again. I dont dismiss anything but think eye problems are often very serious, still you chose to leave that out also. Whoops did you forget Kessler had double vision problems?

That really should be for another thread as he is off subject, but the facts of how you think Roy shouldnt have to travel to face the LHW champ is a small example. Still thats another thread. We are talking Froch and Calzaghe, just you want to talk about Ward and Jones for some reason

 

Odin schooling ESBs biggest fool

 

Lol
You only rate Kessler because Ward beat him after lol

Still maybe you really dont know much about the SMW division a few years back?

 

Faiey why you making up lies abut loudon?

I guess it gives you something to answer him with , if you pretend he said things that you can answer back to.

 

I was watching this sport long before Joe and long after it. If not, I wouldn't know about Joe's "I know my limitations" line. I wouldn't have seen Joe milk a WBO belt in a talent devoid division while his fellow countrymen like Lennox Lewis and Nasim Hamed were making major fights on international networks.

I'm not surprised a fanboy would believe this one article in which Joe talked a tough game and followed it up with another WBO defense of a C or B rated fighter. His actions regarding a decent RJJ speak far greater than his words.

The minute you show me Joe fighting the prime version of a champion on his way to P4P #1 status in the world or the prime version of a man about to move up and win a LHW title, I'll agree with you.

Or, show me a fighter Froch faced coming off of three consecutive KO losses or another who never won another fight.

You do any of those things and I promise, I'll agree with you.

 

But YOU seem to be able to go around claiming Kovalev to have been this unstoppable fighter that JC would have avoided based on his best win against a 49yo no doubt.

 

u wish i was basing it on 50 yr hop. but u secretly know i base it on nathan "new calzaghe" clev, and u wont say it out of fear.