Today heavyweight’s are 6.5 to 6.9 and are 245-265 pounds muscular George foreman in his prime was 220-230 pounds and was 6-3.5 to 6.4 inches tall despite that when you look at heavybag footage the modern heavyweights hit hard extreme hard but they do not dent the heavybag like George foreman. Was this because heavybags at that time where different or could he also have done this to modern heavybags? How does his power compare to modern heavyweights who are bigger and more muscular? Size is not Everything but i mean they are alot bigger today compare to then so i want to know what do you Guys think.
Some fighters just have heavy hands, plus technique. Bob Fitzsimmons hit extremely hard for his day, and was never really never more than a Lthvy in weight. But Fitz was a Blacksmith by trade.
Yep this. Look at David Haye, blown up cruiser, but he KO'ed Chisora in 5, yet much bigger guys like Helenius and Vitali couldn't put a dent in him. Also nobody hurt Valuev like Haye did. Then look at Tyson small for the 80's and 90's yet one of the hardest punchers you'll ever see. Same with Breidis, he KO'ed Charr faster than Povetkin. Duhaupas who's a modern size super heavy couldn't stop Charr. Fact is when you get over 200lbs, if you can punch, you can punch that's it, doesn't matter if you're 215lbs or 250lbs, the human skull can only withstand so much blunt force trauma. As for Foreman he wasn't a 1 punch KO kind of guy, he was the huge thudding power kind of guy. I think his power compares very well with the guys of the modern era. He probably would be the hardest hitter today. And yes you can see that heavy bags are different today, for one they are much bigger and heavier.
Today's HWs are greater easily. Power is simply how explosive you are doing your movements. Today's standards are simply just too good to compare to older days. Nowadays we got really explosive dudes. And others who fail because they aren't. Parker Whyte was an example of that. Parker doesn't train explosive power and only tries to focus on hand speed, which costs him at the heaviest division. Whyte trains his explosive power and it did a show on last two fights. Same goes for Wilder and Joshua. Tyson Fury is a non-explosive type as well. We'll see if he can box his way around big swings for 12 rounds when h does.
Formans punch technique was just plain awful. Powerful guy no punch technique. Punch power 6 out of 10
Punching power is mostly genetics, fast twitch muscle fibres are the key, some people have more of them, some people not, Wilder has not the best punching technique but he has unbelievable power.
He got by a LOT on that brute strength; he was more of a thudding puncher, he'd often just swing and count on being so damn strong, he'd break through any defense and cause damage. I read somewhere that if George ever applied any sort of technique, it would be illegal for him to box. It was tongue-in-cheek, of course, but you get the gist. As far as how he compares to today's HWs, it's almost apples and oranges; no, he was never explosive like today's guys, but those heavy hands of his would cause damage in any era.
This content is protected Never seen this before There is footage of Joshua wilder klitchko lewis hitting the heavybag And they hit extremly hard but not like foreman in this clip but is the bag just different and are modern bags stronger or could George do the same to modern heavybags ?
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Foreman had incredible raw strength and an excellent trainer in Archie Moore who's power and technique allowed him to go 65-3-2 at heavyweight and was both the light heavyweight champion and the #1 ranked heavyweight at the same time.. A lot of the punching mechanics that Foreman used were reminiscent of Moore such as the walking hooks and the short right hook to the body. Also, in preparation for his first fight with Frazier Joe Louis himself polished up Foreman's uppercut, which was a vicious weapon for Foreman even when Foreman was in his 40's. There were a lot of similarities between the way Foreman and Moore fought with the exception of Foreman having way more raw strength and size. Also, Foreman unlike Joshua, Wlad, Whyte, etc. he was 230 lb in solid condition without using weights. Joshua without lifting weights would be between 220-225 without the weights. Even Wlad was around 225 before he went crazy with the strength training. George Foreman's technique This content is protected Archie Moore's technique This content is protected Joshua hitting the heavybag. This content is protected Joshua has the potential to be a much better puncher than he currently is, but I noticed in both his fights and when he's training he doesn't fully turn his shoulder when he throws his punches. Also, his feet often aren't in the proper position when he fires, which is why Takam was absorbing a lot of Joshua's hooks. If Joshua's feet were in the right position when he was throwing those hooks Takam wouldn't have made it past the 5th round. Povetkin and also Chisora completely dusted Takam due to their superior timing and punching technique despite having much less raw power than Joshua. Foreman hitting the heavybag. This content is protected Every time Foreman throws his punches his feet are in the proper position and he turns his shoulders which allows him to get maximum power. Just like in the Moorer fight Foreman had been trying to land the straight right on Moorer several times, but he couldn't get his feet and timing just right, which is why Moorer was able to several of them, but once Foreman's feet were in position and he got the timing just right it was all over in one punch. Also, you have to take some of the heights of modern fighters with a grain of salt. Fury isn't 6'9. Fury is 6'7" at the tallest just like Whyte isn't 6'4", but to 6'2". I met Floyd in person and he's nowhere near 5'8". At best Floyd's is 5'6" with shoes on.