Comparing Tyson "not ready yet" Fury to Luis Ortiz

Ortiz ALMOST beating Wilder is a myth.

Wilder was in trouble in the 7th round but he was always going to land the right hand. The scorecards were even
and Wilder had a lot more gas in the tank. He was going to beat up Ortiz in the Championship rounds regardless
and would also have won the fight on points, Ortiz gave all he had but it wasn't enough and he had nothing left.

 

Yeah Cheating gave him the critical rounds.

 

Was that right hand dropping Ortiz 3 times, also cheating ?

 

Like I said. He wouldnt have won if they fought with the same rules.

 

Fury will beat Wilder in embarrassing fashion.

Mark my words, the people who went from riding Floyd to riding Wilder, will claim that Fury 'ran all night', even though he will put on a Floyd vs Canelo performance.

Wilder is a one trick pony. Move a little bit and he is a C grade heavyweight.
Let's not forget he has been outboxed by many of his last 5 opponents leading up to his KO wins.

Szpilka had success and was easily outboxing Wilder
Washington had success and was easily outboxing Wilder
Even the incredibly slow Ortiz landed clean on Wilder multiple times

Fury beats Wilder in a lopsided fight.

I'm more than happy to put a ban bet on it too.
Let's go @ellebe @Willie Maeket

 

Ortiz is a very good fighter. Stop being ridiculous with this "HE WAS 80 YEARS OLD" horse****.

 

He's really not... Put all the 80 year old bull**** aside.

Ortiz is a slow, limited punching bag that previously had a good chin.
He doesn't have great footwork, his head movement is poor and is arguably the slowest heavyweight in the top15.

He is a glorified punching bag that exposed how limited Wilder really is. He was strategically picked out by Wilders team to avoid any of the live dogs in the top 5.

Ortiz is Takam/Chisora level at best.

AJ, Wilder, Whyte, Fury, Povetkin, Parker maybe even Bellew all beat Ortiz.

 

Yo mama *****. Let's do an profile picture bet. I'm not going to keep track if you come back on or not.

 

If it sounds like a duck, and quacks like a duck. It's probably a duck.

 

I've done plenty of ban bets and 50% of the time people don't follow through!

 

I'm a kiwi... We don't duck anyone. We have nothing to lose

Let's do it.

*edit* - Willie is on board too. I would offer a vCash bet, but Parker ruined that for me

 

I'd rather do a profile picture bet though. How long do you want to do the ban bet for?

 

Then no excuses then if you believe this and I'm not convinced you do. These threads read like people trying to hype themselves up and preparing for various excuses at the same time when Fury finally gets knocked out. I don't want to hear any when it happens. Fury won't be able to fight the same fight as he did against Vlad and win. That means he's going to have to put himself in danger AND survive a scare or two because a big right hand is going to land.

 

Everyone is welcome to their own opinion. Yours is just wrong.

When Fury gets in the ring with Wilder, Wilder will look like a child.
He has limited boxing ability and will struggle to operate against a bigger man like Fury. He will need more than just a couple of premeditated looping shots to beat Fury. Fury has underrated ring IQ and fast hands, feet and head movement. All of which Wilder lacks.

Tell me, if Wilder doesn't KO Fury, how does he beat him? I'm genuinely interested to hear how it plays out.

So, going off Wilders history, what has it proved? He has world class power in his hands, but is incredibly limited as a boxer.

Speed beats power and timing beats speed. Both of which Fury will have in his favour. Although i'm sure you will disagree.

You have Wilder as your profile picture, your post history is predominantly Wilder threads and you bash fighters who aren't based in America.

The only person here that seems to be unsure of themself is you

When did I ever say that Fury needs to fight like he did against Wlad?

Fury can box half as well as he did against Wlad and he would beat Wilder. That's not a stab at Wilder being ****, he's just incredibly limited.

Fury has many different ways to beat Wilder. Wilder has one way to beat Fury.

 

It is a interesting match up for both fighters, just shows the power of trying to get that AJ fight considering what they are both risking for better trading terms..

Fury is the fact he is no where near his best and given how far he dropped both physically and mentally it would be a very low chance for him to be able to avoid Wilder for 12 rounds..

He still needs more mid level tune up before getting in with top guys..

Wilder on the other hand will be going in with a quality boxer who has a size and reach advantage which I suspect will cause him all sorts of trouble and the fact Fury doesn't have Wlad power could be a very painful night..

Both are unique and present unique problems..

Now they both know that but are willing to risk the red panty fight because a win over eachother will give them a better bargaining position with AJ..