Shane Mosely: De La Hoya Is Better Than Mayweather...

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    “In his prime, definitely I would say Oscar was better. He was more physical and faster, and he had more punching power.”
     
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    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    I agree 100%. And I think that prime Shane, Oscar, and Manny would KO Floyd.
     
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    DLH's prime jab defeats Mayweather, the old, slower one gave Floyd problems already.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Mosley's bitter.
     
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    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How so?
     
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    Would the fight have happened? Of all his skills in the ring nothing was as great as Floyds talent for timing when to take opponents on. Fighting guys in their prime wasn't really a priority.
     
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    Sounds like a real ale!
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Prime DLH would be favored over FMJ.
     
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    I think floyd paid as much attention to the timing of selecting his opponents as he did to the rest of his boxing career. Don't you?
     
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    Let's be completely honest, the answer to if Oscar could beat Floyd depends on what you consider Oscar's prime and what Floyd's prime was. I consider his prime from when he ate Genaro Hernandez through his loss
    vs. Shane. Floyd (no matter how hard his detractors scream it), was not in his
    prime at WW. He was never prime at WW. He was still a specimen and I'd say
    his mind and skillset possibly even more advanced but he not in his physical
    prime. No combinations, power deficit, not as fast. Floyd's prime I'd also measure from
    his dismantling of Genaro Hernandez through his decimation of Gatti.

    A prime WW Oscar, the Oscar that fought Ike Quartey, I have no doubt in my mind
    would smash a WW Floyd. Oscar retained speed, had more power and was one of the
    best boxers at parrying shots ever. But that ain't prime for prime, because Floyd aint
    a WW. He honestly should've never been a WW and really was only chasing Zab.

    Now a LW Floyd vs. LW Oscar (who had a good stretch of his prime at LW), would've been
    a different matter altogether. It's a better comparison because both were in their physical
    primes at LW. Oscar had all the attributes at LW that he did at WW, Floyd had his WW skillset
    but in addition to that, was a harder hitter, and was much faster of hand and foot. At LW,
    Oscar vs. Floyd was a 50/50 fight. Not a blow out for either man, but even right down the
    middle.

    Final: I'm tired of the narrative that Oscar vs. Floyd was a close fight, it really wasn't.
    Floyd literally coasted until he determined he had no chance at stopping Oscar. Once
    he figured that out, he just piled on points. The fight was competitive, not close, damn
    a split decision. A crowd screaming as Oscar punched (and missed) doesn't sway me
    in the least.
     
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    Everybody makes a great point but Floyd’s Prime was 130 and Oscars was 147 the ideal fight for both in their prime would be 135.. At 135 I favor PBF.. Mosley didn’t want Mayweather smoke at 135 either he chased the big money at 147 vs Oscar
     
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    De la hoya had a significant size advantage and still lost, my opinion is that fighting mayweather at the highest weight possible was his best shot at winning but he couldn't get it done. I don't even like Floyd but he was better.
     
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    SSM vs ODLH 2-0

    SSM vs FMJ 0-1

    ODLH vs FMJ. 0-1


    Hmmmmmm
     
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