Is Froch Wards best win?

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    regardless of him being a new returner (which u already know so i'm not telling you something u know already), he was still a great scalp.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    if u arent playing that game, thats fine. my apology if u arent ward hating.

    and dawson was a great win.
     
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  3. Liquorice

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    How highly do you value Carl's win over Pascal then considering he beat an undefeated Chad Dawson?
     
  4. HerolGee

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    its elite.
     
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  5. bailey

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    Yes I agree
    Kessler had a greater SMW resume but many on here didnt know the division before the S6 and fell into a hype trap.


    Going into the Ward fight -

    Kessler was a world champ who had beaten a world champ to get a title.
    Froch had Kesslers vacated title won off a fighter coming off a loss

    Froch is credited for beating Bute after the ward loss
    Kessler beat Froch after the Ward loss

    Froch was on a run in title fights of 5-1
    Kessler was on a run of 8-1 in title fights

    Froch had never beaten a champion for a title
    Kessler had beaten 3 champs for a title

    Kessler had only lost to Calzaghe
    Froch had lost to Kessler

    Froch was coming off some debatable decisions
    Kessler was coming off some clear wins


    I think Kessler is Wards best win
     
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  6. bailey

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  7. Pimp C

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    Carl Froch is going to be a HOF fighter and I rate him higher than Kovalev so yes. Kovalev is a good win arguably his second best and he was a good champ and the real deal.
     
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  8. African Cobra

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    Kessler win was better because Kessler is a better fighter than Froch.
     
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  9. bailey

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    Why do you disagree?

    Kessler had a greater SMW resume but many on here didnt know the division before the S6 and fell into a hype trap.


    Going into the Ward fight -

    Kessler was a world champ who had beaten a world champ to get a title.
    Froch had Kesslers vacated title won off a fighter coming off a loss

    Froch is credited for beating Bute after the ward loss
    Kessler beat Froch after the Ward loss

    Froch was on a run in title fights of 5-1
    Kessler was on a run of 8-1 in title fights

    Froch had never beaten a champion for a title
    Kessler had beaten 3 champs for a title

    Kessler had only lost to Calzaghe
    Froch had lost to Kessler

    Froch was coming off some debatable decisions
    Kessler was coming off some clear wins


    I think Kessler is Wards best win
     
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  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I rate the Kessler win higher
    Kessler had a greater SMW resume but many on here didnt know the division before the S6 and fell into a hype trap.


    Going into the Ward fight -

    Kessler was a world champ who had beaten a world champ to get a title.
    Froch had Kesslers vacated title won off a fighter coming off a loss

    Froch is credited for beating Bute after the ward loss
    Kessler beat Froch after the Ward loss

    Froch was on a run in title fights of 5-1
    Kessler was on a run of 8-1 in title fights

    Froch had never beaten a champion for a title
    Kessler had beaten 3 champs for a title

    Kessler had only lost to Calzaghe
    Froch had lost to Kessler

    Froch was coming off some debatable decisions
    Kessler was coming off some clear wins


    I think Kessler is Wards best win
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    Fair post! You make a good case for Kessler being his best win.
     
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  12. bailey

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    I would rate the wins as

    1st Kessler
    2nd Kovalev
    3rd Froch

    After that I think it can be debatable. Maybe Bika?
     
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  13. African Cobra

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    Kovalev is good fighter and was a dominant fighter and champion at 175 pounds. He lost to Andre Ward twice but then again Ward is an all time great and everybody lost to Ward he is that good. Froch was a very good win but not Ward’s best win. Froch is popular in the UK especially for his reckless macho style however those who understand boxing realized that Ward is better than Froch in every single facet of the game including the intangibles such as heart, will, desire and mental toughness. These are things Froch trades on but against Ward he met someone better technically as well as in these attributes. If anything Ward should have stopped Froch but for his broken hand. Froch is not the best fighter Ward has faced.
     
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  14. bailey

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    Thanks Pimp.
    You seem a good honest poster
     
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  15. African Cobra

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    He fought a very high level of competition and beat them. One of his best wins at the time was against Edison Miranda at the time. Great great fighter and even better man. Always gave his opponents credit even Froch and Kovalev something both of them are incapable of. Froch still goes around slagging off Calzaghe when everybody knows both of them at their prime Calzaghe would beat him.