Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

You didnt know about the line. You said a further part of the same article was years later and you dont know that paragraph as it even mentions on it that he was happy to fight Jones.
Now you say you were watching before but yet dont seem to know much about the opponents or era and have come out with some things that have been factually incorrect. I dont believe you are even 35 as you really dont seem to have a clue.
How did Calzaghe milk the belt. This I must hear as you make statements but when questioned cant answer to your own statements

Once again who are you referring to? What opponents as Calzaghe and Jones were not in the same division.
Froch wasnt facing Stevenson at LHW and Frochs fight with Groves level wise is only at a similar level to when Calzaghe defended against Starie

Calzaghe was the SMW who was on his way to P4P. You fail to understand that. There wouldnt have been another SMW on their way there until he left the division. Even you should know that if you know the division.
Now this comment of "prime version of a man about to move up and win a LHW title" Is very stupid as I have already shown you that Calzaghe beat a fighter who years later beat the fighter you are referring to. I also showed you the fighters Calzaghe beat who beat fighters who went on to win LHW titles.
Its what you do at the weight and what did Pascal do at SMW. You wont answer these questions. I exposed your stupidity pages ago and am now just enjoying you coming back for a constant schooling

Like who? As said before Jones hadnt suffered 3 consecutive KO losses. Are you thick? I have shown you before that wasnt the case so you resort to lies again like a twat lol

I can do so much more, but we know that as someone who even when corrected is resorting to lies, we know you cant face facts.
Tell me what these 3 consecutive KO losses were Jones suffered before facing Calzaghe. Tell me them
Froch fought Mack who had more KO losses. Point proven right there.
Now tell me who did Froch beat with as great a career as what Hopkins or Jones had? Answer is nobody
What wins did Froch have at LHW?
As said before you rate Froch for losing to Kessler coming off a loss who Calzaghe had already beaten.
why dont you try and tell me again how Pascal who hadnt looked impressive at SMW was a greater win than Calzaghe beating Hopkins. Come on give us another laugh

 

When Calzaghe was champ, Froch was a British level fighter.
Calzaghe fought undefeated unified WBA/WBC champ Kessler which was a greater fight.
He then went up to fight LHW champ Hopkins instead of British SMW champ Froch another greater fight.

Hatton and Witter were champs at the same time. Froch didnt win a SMW title until after calzaghe had moved up to LHW had 2 fights and retired. Big difference.
Froch didnt fight Degale but I dont think there is anything wrong with that as Froch was at the end of his career

 

Champ or not be was mandatory
it never happened
***** me Bailey you should be a lawyer
Briefly read as we have been here time after time

 

It would of been a lacy type beatdown.

 

Jones was KO'd by Tarver and Jones in back to back fights. My mistake, he was only KTFO by two non greats before Joe finally stopped knowing his limitations and faced him. Either way, Jones was shot to **** by the time Joe would actually go anywhere near him, despite the one sided piece you linked.

It would be a whopping year until he was again unconscious at the hands of the "elite" Danny Green.

Mack is a footnote on Froch's opponents list. RJJ is a highlight on Joe's. Point made right there.

Tell me again how many of Joe's opponents would go on to the #1 P4P rating in the world?

 

He'd make a great lawyer. He's on the OJ is innocent side and just won't quit.

 

Unless it's for comedic effect, you should be embarrassed to post that horse manure above.

I hope Serge is reading this.

That's the very definition of something being cringeworthy.

"I will jump on the next plane to the States if the opportunity arose...."

Ha!

He wouldn't go to the States.

He wouldn't fight up at LHW.

He had Showtime's backing, but he wasn't interested.

How many more times?

We've been at this for 6 years now, and you still can't comprehend that unless Joe had've fought in the U.S. at LHW, the fight COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AT THAT STAGE.

If you've been watching for as long as you say you have, then why can't you see it?

The world's best fighter does not travel and drop down weight divisions, to fight relatively unknown fighters who hold lightly regarded belts.

Go and find me just ONE credible link where Frank sat down to discuss Joe fighting Roy in the U.S. up at LHW.

 

What planet am I on?

No.

What planet are YOU on???

You initially wrote:

"Now please answer this question as you duck it so much.
I read how Ward mentioned that he didnt know about the break and wasnt troubled by it. So why with him saying he wasnt aware of it or troubled by it, do you keep trying to make out it was a factor? I have had broken bones and worked as normal without being aware"

I then replied with a link, which contained the following:

"The X-ray came back negative. I just knew it hurt like nobody's business," Ward said. "We had to go (through) with the fight. I was extremely concerned the whole week of the fight, but I knew I couldn't pull out. It was inevitable that it would get banged up again in the fight and that is my lead hand. I felt it all through the fight, but I bit down. I continued to do what I had to do."

That's it.

Case closed.

I provided you with a DIRECT quote straight from the mouth of Andre Ward.

Instead of acknowledging it like a normal person would, all you can do is find other interviews to post which weren't as in-depth.

My link PROVES that he was bothered by the injury GOING INTO THE FIGHT. Yes, he didn't know it was fractured until after. But if you read his comments, he was injured going into the fight but he tried to put it behind him.

There's nothing else to say on the matter.

 

bailey,

Seriously?

You've been banging this drum for years.

You're so predictable.

I could write these posts out for you.

I've never said that to you.

I've told you numerous times that I became a fan of boxing after I watched Ray fight Marvin in about 88/89. It was a home video a few years after the fight.

By the early 90's, I was a huge fan, watching ITV and Sky, and buying Boxing Monthly etc.

I started watching Joe just prior to him fighting Eubank in my home town, as Sky were pushing him. It would have been late 96-early 97.

To be honest, from memory, I can't recall the Delaney fight. But I watched a few of Delaney's other fights, and I liked how he came across in interviews. I remember him being a big West Ham fan, coming from the area.

Ha!

You can't be serious.

The above is the very definition of yourself.

You are the BoxRec King.

The guy who can build a guy like Mario Veit into an elite fighter based on stats.

I respect that he had hand issues. But if they were that bad, he couldn't have had a 15 year career.

I said: At the weight.

He hadn't won at SMW in 3 years, and he'd lost back to back fights against Collins 2 years earlier.

Every factor should be analysed before rating a win.

Yes, Eubank was the more accomplished SMW. But he wasn't even a SMW when he fought Joe. Yes, Carl had debatable wins. That's not the point. Again, I don't mind if you rate Joe's win over Eubank highly. As long as you rate Andre's win over Carl as being above merely average.

That's fine that you rate Eubank higher than Froch. But you have to rate Andre's win over Froch higher, as he beat him with ease whilst injured, before Carl went out and destroyed Bute. Labelling the win as being average is just a joke.

I haven't left it out. I agree with you. The point is, you'll highlight Kessler's circumstances, whilst ignoring Eubank's from the time.

It was you who mentioned Roy.

 

Wow, quite a battle here.

 

I've already told you, there's enough evidence to form a logical opinion that Joe wouldn't have fought Kovalev.

It took him 14 years to move up to LHW after starving himself to make SMW.

He had zero interest in fighting Antonio Tarver.

He had zero interest in fighting Roy when Roy was anywhere near his peak.

He had zero interest in fighting Kelly Pavlik.

He had zero interest in fighting Chad Dawson.

He only had his 2 final fights at LHW. One was against a non puncher in Bernard, and the other was against the ghost of Roy, who Joe had said had been shot for 4 years.

This was a guy who defended a lightly regarded WBO belt for 10 years.


Everything above is factual. So why would you or anybody else think that Joe would have moved up to have fought Kovalev?

There'd be more chance of you and Herol going out for some beers together.

 

That is your OPINION it does not and should not be taken as fact.

And again you are basing this on Kovalev who's best win was Hopkins 5 years after JC.

I could say that Ward would never fight JC, as JC being the A side Ward would have to travel.....and we all know he's never done that so by proxy Ward would duck Calzaghe. There's enough evidence to prove Calzaghe was the bigger draw in the UK than Ward was in Oakland let alone the US.....therefore the fight would never happen as Ward wouldn't travel.

Quack....quack

 

Ha!

I've been telling him this for years.

He'd never lose a case in court.

"Your defendant shot and killed 13 people"

"Yes, it was a very sad turn of events. But you have to understand that those 13 people were at fault for getting in the way of those bullets. It was negligence on their part."

 

hes given u facts meathead.

 

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