Why has Deontay achieved so little?

Seems a bit subjective I can’t say I agree with anything you just posted but in hindsight it’s just as credible as any other opinion regarding Wilder.

 

Because he avoids any and every fighter with any sort of pedigree. Not Ortiz, despite Ortiz's technical brilliance, he suffers the same problem as every aging fighter, rapidly fading legs, agility and mobility, 3 things big George didnt need. But yeah, Stiverne, Spilka, Duhuapas, Molina, Arreola, Washington are extremely weak in pedigree considering Klitschko, prime Povetkin, Briggs, prime Ortiz, Joshua, Whyte, Breazeale, Miller etc have all been passed up opportunities at one time or another. Like i said, avoids anyone with any fighting pedigree. Its like team Wilder has never even tried to convince either boxing fans or casuals, but simply tried to fool both.

 

wilder was in the Olympics

 

Not sure of your point…

 

Ya...the Special Olympics...

 

Just when you said i agree with eddie hearn your cases was closed!

 

Chavez was learning on the job

 

At the beginning of Wilders career he was matched very carefully because he had a lot to learn and was very vulnerable.

In the last 4 fights, aside from Ortiz you can make a strong case for him stepping it up a lot more than he has done l.

However I think his clear vulnerabilities especially against a slick boxer has caused his team to be overly careful.

It’s time to let him out against the big boys and see where the chips fall. If his can find that right hand on everybody then good for him- I doubt it though.

 

Which is why I made my original comparison. I hope you’re not insinuating Wilder has anywhere near Chavez’s skill level…assuming not, you should agree with the comparison…

Regardless of how long it took you to get there, if you Become the best in your division, the journey doesn’t negate the accomplishment. One might argue it might in some ways add to it.

 

Because he is a feral creature. Not the brightest bulb in the shop. He has that thug aura about him and his entourage. He is the way he fights, very emotional without a lot of processing going on. He's one of these guys who when the lights and cameras are on him, he can be appealing but you sense there is a real dark side to his living when the lights are not on him.

 

I think his thin resume gets at why he isn't the star a super hard punching heavyweight champion should be, but it's more than his resume lacking good contenders. To be a star you have to beat a star, and Wilder hasn't faced a star.

And that can't be blamed on him. There hasn't been a widely known American heavyweight who Wilder could take the torch from for a good 15 years. In the 90s Bowe beat Holyfield, Moorer beat Foreman, Holyfield beat Tyson, etc. There isn't that established path in American heavyweight boxing to be a star these days.

Even Floyd needed Gatti and Oscar to become a star himself. You have to beat someone more people are looking at to get more people to look at you. AJ became bigger beating Klitschko, but as Klitschko wasn't huge in the States Wilder still wouldn't be the star he should be if it was him instead of AJ who beat Klitschko.

 

I think it's an achievement for a heavyweight to even step into the ring and risk his life, and to continue doing it as long as Wilder has, and to make a lot of money to put food on the table for his family. And to have defended his champion belt against contenders.

He has achieved a lot, and it is ridiculous to say he hasn't achieved "much". I would ask everyone on this forum to look at your life as a human being and see what you've achieved? In the same regard in your area of work, or personal life.

 

wilder is more physically gifted then Chavez it dose matter how long it takes you to step up just look at all the praise loma has gotten and a more appropriate comparison would be calzaghe to wilder both long time champs not the most technically sound both criticized for not fighting anyone