Lennox Lewis - ''Anthony Joshua doesn't want to fight Deontay Wilder''

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    He explains: 'Joshua said he would take $50m in a heartbeat but when that offer came he didn't accept. I would have taken fifty million quicker than a heartbeat and gone through with any fight. But I never ducked anyone.'

    'Go order Eddie Hearn to make the fight with [url]Deontay Wilder[/url]. Now is the moment when you must take charge of your own destiny.'

    'While you might think it better for him to have another couple of fights first, Wilder would not find this easy. Fury's height (6ft 9in), long reach, mobility and style make him very difficult to beat. Wladimir Klitschko discovered that. And the better the opponent, the better Tyson is going to look. Definitely.
     
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  2. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Lovely jubley. Hearn and Joshua played their cards right and are guna get a lovely Brucey bonus when April 2019 brings us the big one, Joshua vs Fury for undisputed heavyweight champion. Hell yes. And people in America are guna be asked to pay to watch this fraud WBC champion get thoroughly exposed and smashed up like Jeff Lacy. Bums from Bum City have outboxed Deontay now you facing an X-men version of Ali. Hes took the bait of another sickly weakened opponant front.

    Then Frank and Eddie are guna hug and sit back and happily sign the most lucrative contract the sport of Boxing has ever seen. Dont panic America, it will be on DAZN. Beginning to feel like a plot from an Oceans film.
     
  3. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both camps are to blame imho.

    Lewis never ducked anyone lol. Yeah pull another one Lewis.
    Vital gave you a one way ticket straight into retirement, don't pass go, don't collect any money.

    Very selective memory you got there our good old Canadian Lewis.
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    He at least fought Vitali and never priced himself out of a fight.
     
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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had to fight vitali. He was Mando . As far as I know Wilder is not mando for Joshua.

    On top of that he "promised" vitali a rematch only to ***** out when contracts were being drawn. That's a duck if I ever saw one.
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    LMAO...jeezus Christ, get some help bro.
     
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  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I agree it was a duck, he retired instead of honoring his word.

    However if you look on Lewis' resume, there are not any names missing from that era except Wladimir.

    Lewis fought unifications and never made any excuses why a fight couldn't be made.

    When he had issues with Bowe, he told his promoter in no uncertain terms to get the fight done at all costs.
     
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  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    The AJ Vs Wilder fight hasn't happened for a number of reasons and I blame both sides, to blame AJ and Hearn is not only bias but ignorant.

    Anyway..

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    I suggest you listen to this, 3 minutes onwards is very interesting and raises many many many questions.

    According to FW himself, he was involved in negotiations between Hearn/Finkle regarding AJ Vs Wilder.

    According to FW himself, He was giving Finkle advice and guidance with regards to contract negotiations with Hearn.

    So, in short, a rival promoter to Hearn, who makes it quite clear he is a serious rival was advising another promoter about a fight he had zero interests in, neither AJ or Wilder are FW's fighters

    So we have FW openly admitting he was giving Finkle advice and surprise surprise AJ Vs Wilder isn't made and then amazingly FW's own fighter Vs Wilder is now apparently 99% done.

    Anybody see what I'm seeing here? Can anybody see why FW might have had a slight conflict of interest when advising Finkle about an AJ fight?

    And people blame Hearn and AJ for this fight not happening? Really?

    Also, let's assume Team Wilder were genuine in negotiations with Hearn..

    How pathetic is Team Wilder that Finkle has to get guidance/advice from FW?

    Can't he/they negotiate themselves? Are they really that unsure of themselves and that clueless?

    FW has made a Finkle look a total moron in my opinion, he needed FWs advice and guidance.. Hahahaha beyond embarrassing and people wonder why Wilder and his Tea, are looked upon as amateurs.


    Lots of other little gems in this interview to listen out for, Another one that stuck out was something along the lines of "if Fury looks Good/OK against Pianeta then the Wilder should be done.."

    Whoa, Stop, Err hang on, What if Fury looks like he did in his last fight? Poor? Does that means Wilder Vs Fury isn't happening?

    FW also goes full Alex Jones by the end of it and starts banging on about TalkSPORT, Sky, The Sun all being agenda driven and basically bias.


    Oh FW is on top form, apparently he should have made Yarde Vs Kovalev looking back at the weekend, that gave me a giggle, FW won't let Yarde fight any domestic rivals ffs.


    Anyway the longer this goes on and the more FW speaks the worse it looks for Team Wilder and Wilder himself..

    Let's remember FW said himself on IFL he has apparently signed a "confidentiality clause" so can't talk about Furys and Wilders purses and now he has openly admitted advising/guiding Finkle on what to do negotiating with Hearn.


    It's over, it's clear to see what gone on here in my opinion.
     
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  9. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    You not buying into this master chess move by both Hearn and Warren? Me neither but i just wanted to see if Stephene Rising would be tempted to take me off block again so he can swear at me some more.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Finkel and Warren are good friends and friends will discuss matters with each other. There's nothing unusual or suspicious about that.

    Carl Froch sky and matchroom insider has already informed us that Eddie doesn't want the fight.

    Instead of taking his word, you prefer to create your own theories.
     
  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I'm not going to swear at you,.I put you on block because you were trolling. I don't discuss boxing with trolls.
     
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  12. Okin129

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    The truth is Joshua makes enough money without fighting Wilder, he could fight Audley Harrison and it would
    doing numbers, therefore he doesn't need Wilder and won't give him the 50/50 split Wilder is demanding.

    A Wilder fight is high risk and not enough reward for him to take the risk. If you are really confident about beating
    a guy for 50 million dollars and the chance to be the first heavyweight to unify all 4 major belts you would do it
    immediately but Joshua doesn't seem like he is wanting to fight Wilder, it is what it is.

    Wilder is too proud to take anything less than 50/50 and Joshua doesn't want to give up money for legacy, he
    is pricing himself out.

    Nonetheless, i hope this fight happens in 2019 and we all finally get the fight we want to see.
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

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    Ruiz and Byrd were his mandatories too but he didn't fight them, just because your a mandatory doesn't mean the fight will happen. Lewis saw them as meaningless fights, he saw Vitali as a worthy opponent and so agreed to the fight. If he didn't want to fight Vitali he would of just relinquished the belt like he did with Byrd and Ruiz because he was bigger than the belts.

    And yeah he promised Vitali a rematch but his time was over. Pride at the time made him agree to the rematch. He did it in the heat of the moment and after some time to think things through he made the right choice and retired.

    Vitali did something similar at the end of his career. He delayed his mandatory with Stiverne 3 times before finally vacating the belt. He didn't want to quit so easily, just like Lewis couldn't so easily just retire, both of them found the idea of retirement anathema but both eventually realised it was the right choice.
     
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  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    That is a fair assessment.

    Lewis may well have made his feelings known in the heat of the moment, however because the fight was so conversational I think he owed to it not just Vitali but the fans to do a rematch even it meant passing on the torch.

    Saying that, retiring instead of delivering a rematch is a totally different kettle of fish to avoiding a unification after being offered 50 million guaranteed purse just because you don't want to fight outside of your own country.

    I believe Lewis 100% when he states he'd have taken such an offer in a heartbeat and I think any true champion would do the same.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree Lewis would of taken it in a heart beat. He really only cared about making the fights that mattered happen. Like when he was WBC champion and he signed to fight a Bowe who had lost to Evander he gave him a 58/42 split, despite Bowe low balling him when the roles were reversed the year before.

    Joshua and Hearn in that same situation wouldn't of offered Bowe 42%, they would of squeezed him for all they could and probably offered Bowe a flat fee killing the fight.

    Now Bowe had more leverage than Wilder does now being a proven PPV draw back then but that doesn't change the fact Lewis didn't play games or push his leverage to get fights on his terms like Joshua and Hearn have been doing of late. I understand why Hearn and Joshua are doing it but I don't respect it.
     
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